|09-26-2013 12:46 AM|
There is no "better". It's just opinion. Prelims are as accurate as 1) The vet doing them (positioning) and 2) The people reading them (it is a subjective reading). Experts read the tests, but they are not infallible.
I have working service dogs, I know how important joints are. But, as others mentioned, guarantees are really more of a "good faith" deal than anything. It's a living creature. Nobody can promise the joints will be sound at 2 years (OFA) or 12 months (A stamp). There are many more factors involved than just breeding.
My personal feeling is that you just cross your fingers and hope.
|09-26-2013 12:44 AM|
Ok... I see how it can be a little different as a working prospect that you're fine returning if need be.
If the pup's hips look good at 15 months.. I'd be pretty confident you're good to go. It's not like they're going to look good at 15 months and then all of a sudden be bad at 24 months. I'll probably do prelims for my puppy at about a year and that will be it. PennHip is also another option that you can do on a younger dog.
|09-26-2013 12:38 AM|
I am buying this dog as a working prospect, unfortunately if the hips are bad she will have to be returned.
I have looked at the lines and at least 4 generations back the dogs have A1 hips. I really do trust the breeder. She has been breeding since the 1970's and has come highly recommended.
My biggest question then, are OFA prelims accurate? Is it better to do the SV even though it is a bit extra?
|09-26-2013 12:28 AM|
What does a guarantee do for you anyway? Most likely, you just get a replacement puppy if yours has HD. By then you're probably so attached to that puppy that you're not going to even want another puppy because you'll have your hands full with your current one. It's not like the breeder is going to reimburse you for a hip surgery or anything like that.
My advice is to go with a good breeder that knows what they're doing, that health tests their breeding stock, and knows what their dogs produce. Just take all the precautions from there once you have the puppy and hope for the best. That's all you really can do when it comes to something like HD as a puppy buyer.
Ever see the movie Tommy Boy? As crazy as he is in that movie, he makes a pretty good point about what a guarantee is. Kind of relates to breeding too.
|09-26-2013 12:07 AM|
Asking if it is "fair" is really not relevant.....you are not buying a product that is engineered to specifications....it is a living creature and no reputable breeder breeds dogs without considering producing passing hips....no one wants to produce bad hips. There is always a risk...both breeders and buyers should educate themselves before breeding a litter/buying a puppy and understand that there is ALWAYS a risk...no one is to blame if you buy from a reputable breeder...and a 1 year to 2 year warranty is normal...so breeders use the German SV system, some OFA....the SV will certify hips at 12 months....it IS more expensive to send your x-rays to Germany, and requires using the WDA or USCA for this submission.
|09-25-2013 11:57 PM|
Hip Guarantee (OFA prelims)?
I am wondering about hip dysplasia as well as hip guarantees.
From looking at various breeders it seems like for the limited registration (for pets) the hip guarantee is only until they are around 15 months and get their OFA prelims done.
Can hip dysplasia be detected this young in most cases? Is it "fair" for the breeder to only cover the dog until this age?