|09-26-2013 06:13 PM|
That is great, thank you for posting this.
I was signed up to take Fritz to a similar class but had to cancel it when he got sick that weekend. But he will definitely be taking it next year.
I also got him a rattlesnake vaccine. It's not full protection, but it does give you more time to get to the vet. Worth looking into since you live in rattler territory as I do.
|09-23-2013 12:35 PM|
|NietzschesMomma||(She did pee on the handler's foot though...that's why you hear me saying "I'm sorry")|
|09-23-2013 12:04 PM|
He purposely walked her on his right side (she's trained to the left) to put her "out of sorts" with his walking...and then...came the snakes coiled up in the grass. You can clearly see how they put the snake up...and when she decides, hey, what's THIS?! and put her nose right up to it...they corrected her-immediately. The handler was the last thing on her mind...getting away from correction, scent was all she cared about! Same with other dogs.
|09-23-2013 11:43 AM|
|Lilie||During the clinic - did you see any dog act adversely towards the handler (the trainer, not the owner) when the correction was made?|
|09-23-2013 11:20 AM|
Its imperative to your dog that you participate. While Nietzsche truly wanted to get away from the scent with the handler during the first half of the training, seeing her reaction with her bonded person (me) when entering an area with a snake is soooo important. We didn't closer than 5 yards to first the station we were directed to once we started together, and not only did she try to get away, I stood still and she literally started jumping all over my back...I was then instructed to RUN RUN RUN with her...and run we did! She stopped when we were well past the sidewalk with the kiddie pool and whimpered. I praised her like never before!!! We did this several more times. Each time...even with a snake just slithering through the grass with us walking along....she put on the brakes, started jumping on my back if I didn't move immediately, and on two occasions jumped into the kiddie pool full of water on the sidewalk...after we ran away. Only those big ears and her eyes peering over the rim-checking for danger.
This works. While it may not have been enjoyable for her, there's no way I'd opt for anything else with where I live. I tried other methods that didn't work. She has only one life...and if it means getting shocked to make her realize that this is a BAD BAD BAD thing to play with...so be it. I felt bad of course, but not nearly as bad as I'd feel burying her because I just "couldn't" put her through a bad few minutes out of her entire life. I am happy I put her through this because I know she will be much safer, and.... I am so proud of her nose! She learned SO fast, and I'm sure its stamped into her brain for life. Yes, that makes me happy! Its awful to be so paranoid about snakebite that you have to take your dog out on lead every time she needs to go potty because you know there are snakes around...and don't have time to check out several fenced acres that are only chain link.
If I ever have any doubt that she's forgotten that scent-I can take her to their facility at any time, free of charge, for the rest of her life. They won't even put a collar on her, but will test her to see that she still remembers that scent. If she doesn't, she'll receive another correction-but I highly doubt she will ever need that...trainer agrees. I'm truly thankful that training like this is available for her...it wasn't all that common when my boy was struck years ago...and what he went through, fighting for his life, breaks my heart to pieces - to this very day. I am proud of her ability to catch on SO fast...other dogs didn't catch on as fast as she did-
I also know that nose of hers will keep ME safe-as well as her...when we're outside together...she WILL tell me in a huge way - if we are in danger. I have scratches all over my back from her warnings during the clinic.
This clinic went on all day long, and was completely sold out. Hunting dogs, family pets, service dogs...and my baby...who won't end up a statistic.
|09-23-2013 11:11 AM|
[QUOTE=NietzschesMomma;4253810This video is of the first half of her avoidance training. (The second half was with me handling her, not recorded) She caught on SO fast, got an "A" grade!
Great job!!!! A quick learner for sure! I do like the way she used her nose to avoid the scent!
My dogs are used in an environment where there are snakes. I plan on taking both my tracking dog and my GSD through avoidance training. And follow through with yearly refreshers. Not only will the dog's reaction save it's life, but it could in fact save yours.
An e-collar is used for behavioral training. This is behavioral training that a failure or refusal could no doubt end up a death sentence. My dogs are all trained using possitive reinforcement. I don't use e-collars and never had to use a prong. But I would use a cattle prod if I thought it would save my dogs life.
|09-23-2013 10:53 AM|
|brembo||I fortunately only have copperheads to worry with here. I have a "pet" black snake that lives in my attic/basement depending on the time of the year and it's a snake-eater. Big one too, prolly around 5 feet of ornery black snake. I have only seen it twice, but it's around. I was getting ready to evict a family of squirrels (attic) last year, but the snake did the work for me. There are rattlesnakes in the area, but so very few it's akin to winning the lottery to see one.|
|09-23-2013 10:44 AM|
problem is, you eventually have to be in the area with your dog as part of the training.
|09-23-2013 10:41 AM|
|brembo||I hate to see a dog get zapped and yelp BUT considering the alternative(death, extreme pain and suffering) a few minutes of panic and pain is waaaay batter than a bite. I would probably leave the training area, I'd get pretty amped up seeing my dog(s) get zapped.|
|09-23-2013 10:17 AM|
I agree. If it means my dogs have a permanent reminder that snakes are not their friends, I will use the most effective method available to hopefully avoid them being bitten. We have cottonmouth snakes here. Thankfully we don't go anywhere we'd encounter one and there's too many people in our area for much of anything besides squirrels, birds and the occasional deer to come around but the threat is still there. I don't like snakes and venomous snakes will get killed honestly because here I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing its out there and could potentially bite someone, especially one of the kids, mine or the neighbors, so I won't give it that chance but if my dogs are able to learn to avoid snakes, that's one less concern I have.
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