|09-22-2013 02:11 PM|
untill you train him not to counter surf keep things out
of his reach. when i trained my dog not to counter surf
i use to leave things on the edge of the counter. i placed
food on the seat of the chair, laid food on the floor, placed
food on the coffee table. you don't have place food all over the
place at once. once the food was in position i watched my dog
closely. when he went for the food i said "no" or "leave it".
if wanted to give more of a harsh warning i held him by some
neck fur and looked directly at him and gave him a verbal warning.
then to proof the counter surfing sometimes i would leave the room.
once he stopped going for the food when i left the room i started
leaving the house for one minute. one minute became 5 minutes
and 5 minutes 10 minutes and so on.
|09-22-2013 12:36 PM|
|pets4life||this is sad you do not want a hand shy gsd|
|09-21-2013 11:51 PM|
|09-21-2013 09:50 PM|
|mebully21||Crate the dog and lock the crate with a padlock that the key you have and they dont. I personally would move out and pay both rents just until my lease was up to keep my dog away from them.|
|09-21-2013 05:21 PM|
GSD's are a special gift from heaven and are only given to those who deserve them. Those who cannot or will not do the right thing lose them in the shoort run. Karma always gets her payback. So be patient, love your dog and look for better days ahead. When I got disabled, that was all I could do for 4 long years till I got both of my girls. Now I have a mission and that is to be the person my dogs believe I am already...
|09-21-2013 05:07 PM|
|I am out of the house, isolated, or strongly supervising at all times when I'm with Altair. I agree with the alleged mistreatment and I have already stated that I can't prove anything! In this area, I have no grounds for an animal issue, none at all. The police here do not care. Animal control doesn't bat an eyelash for stuff like this. I know this because I was a senior staff member at the humane society here for 2 years. I just quit a month ago. I know that there are some of you who think I should get out now, and I wish I could. Lately I have been leaving the house with Altair for 10 hours until everyone goes to bed and then I get back and go straight to sleep. I'm managing really well and then only other thing I could do is up and leave but the situation is more complex than that and I appreciate the sympathy.|
|09-21-2013 04:54 PM|
START LOOKING for a move NOW!!!!!!!!!! Do not pass go, do not wait. Make the roomies foot the bill for abusing your dog. I am like you about WGSD's they are a GSD and they are a noble breed. They and you deserve much better. Get away from the abuser and the drunk as far and as fast as you can before he bites that **** head and you end up with a bigger problem or an injured dog. It may be tough, but our animals are worth it because they will get your back as long as they live and your roomies wont even do it now. Unfortunately I would be crippled, but I would feel extra good after I broke my leg off in his aZZ, But ya gotta do what ya gotta do to get by, but g et busy now, the lease will be over soon, and you might be able to get a really good living arrangement set up before then and move out as soon as it comes together. I for one would not pay another cent for anything as long as those two are not respecting my wishes. You have as much right as the other one because you too are on the lease and entitled to the same protection of the law as her.... I feel for you and hope you get out and away soon.
|09-21-2013 03:52 PM|
I am really glad I posted because this is the information and advice I am looking for. Altair is 3 years old, quite tall so I can't get any gates that he wouldn't get the courage to jump. The previous family said he's never jumped a fence before but my roommates said he jumped an outside fence about 4.5ft tall once when I left. I don't want him to get hurt trying. I have thought about the bread bin, but honestly we have so much storage space it logically doesn't make sense to me. All of us living here are over 5'9 at least, so reaching high places in the kitchen to get things(if not just putting in a cupboard....) doesn't seem like a crazy idea to me. I've told them many times what he can reach and what he can't reach, but they don't listen or they "forget" or get too busy, I guess. I have been training him for a couple weeks now to never investigate anything food related such as plates or any type of food carrier, especially if there is food in it. I do this by saying NO very loudly as soon as I see it, if he's more than 15 feet away I have to do the EH EH EH to break his concentration.
I don't have a job right now because I'm just going to school a mile away from home. I have my classes blocked together so I'm not gone long. The main problems here are that my roommates leave enticing food where we all know he can reach it (so he does, mostly bread) and they don't leave him outside when I ask them to if I see food everywhere in the kitchen and it's obvious they don't have intentions of cleaning it up. I come home an hour or two later and he's greeting me at the front door.
I'm worried about his digestion, I don't want this happening anymore. My room is an option but it's a basement room so he doesn't get to see what's going on and he can get a bit whiny even when I just go upstairs without him and the door shut.
I do have a big crate, a good rubber kong, and lots of frozen marrow bones. I am going to go to the thrift store today to find him a radio so he can listen to something nice while I'm gone and just start with small trips. I think it would help him if there was a cover over him like a den to make him feel safe and cozy. Is this a good plan?
When some of you say that I can do "punishment" training, does that mean more than scolding him and putting him outside by himself for 5 minutes? What else can I do? I know dogs can't be rebutted for a bad behavior more than 5 seconds after, so I don't do anything but do more and more management when he screws up. I also praise him happily and excitedly when he corrects himself after about 5 seconds so he doesn't get confused.
On a side note, he got quite clever with his bread stealing. A couple times it seemed as though the bread just disappeared. He learned to take the bread in it's bag, shuttle it outside to the foresty corners for cover, and then make a 3inch incision, that's it. He eats every crumb and even leaves the bread tag somewhere (the little pieces of paper inside the bag that says what type it is). He does it like a surgeon.
|09-21-2013 12:55 PM|
|Sarah~||I feel for you I have roommate troubles too with Eko and Xena. It's very frustrating trying to talk to someone who won't listen because they think they know better than you. We're working on it though and it's getting better. Don't have any advice to add I agree with what's been said already about crating.|
|09-21-2013 11:00 AM|
I agree with Twyla, crating is your best solution. It is not up to your roommates to train and discipline your dog, and myself I would not want to leave my dog unsupervised around people whose training/dog-rearing philosophy is so drastically different than mine. Up to you to keep your dog safe even when you are not home, and keeping him safe includes preventing him from counter surfing, and not allowing others to discipline your dog when you are not there to look after him. You can talk to your roommate all you want, but bottom line is that he is your dog, and your responsibility.
If you are usually not gone for more than four hours at a time, really no big deal to keep him crated during that time. Takes a lot of worry about Altair away, and it will also remove a lot of friction between you and your roommates over the handling of Altair.
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