|09-16-2013 09:17 PM|
|mebully21||unless the dog pays the bills (mortgage, property taxes, etc) fence the yard. too bad if he wont like it, thats tough .... dog leaves property = dog is now leashed or in fenced in yard period.. fence in part of the yard so he cant escape and when on the outside of the fence in the unfenced yard put a 25 ft leash on him with your hand holding the leash and take him with you that way on the property... all it takes is one instance, which he burnt up barking at the old ladies. luckily they didnt have a heart attack or fall when he did this.|
|09-16-2013 07:31 PM|
One time is too many, it was lucky the little old lady was not injured. Doesn't matter if she called him over, if she stunk or if she was carrying a raw steak, Mac was out of your control , out of your yard. Bad news. He could have knocked her down and broke her hip. It could have been a child on a bike and a broken leg or fractured skull from a fall to the pavement.
Just think how you would feel about your training and thinking it was 100% perfect if a car had been driving by and you are now burying Mac. These are animals and therefore I don't think any animal can be considered 100% perfect EVERY time. Even if they are 99.9% of the time, Mac just proved it isn't 100% guaranteed.
Build a fence, then you won't have to ever worry about that 1% that he doesn't listen again.
|09-16-2013 07:18 PM|
I appreciate all of the replies. To address some of the comments: We did have Mac on a long lead until we were confident he was trained to stay in the yard. Infact if he is not near us when someone walks or drives by he is trained to run to us and sit. I figured this would make people feel more comfortable instead of him running the perimeter of the property like he used to do. I was actually very proud of Mac and the fact that we had him trained so well. Neighbors actually commented on it and asked us how we did it.
Now I feel very foolish for being so confident boarding on arrogant. Not only did he leave the yard but he barked at the people and did not come immediately when I called him. It was like Mac & Carrie 2 years ago. It has been a long time since we've reinforced the boundaries because we just take it for granted now. Which is clearly our mistake.
The reason we decided not to get a fence after many many conversations about it and even building a mock fence to test the dynamics is because we spend a lot of time outside in many different parts of our large property and wanted Mac to be with us wherever we are and not be restricted to a fenced in area of the property. Obviously that is not an option anymore. I know our life will be much easier with a fence but I know Mac won't dig it. Oh well...
|09-16-2013 09:26 AM|
I used to have a unfenced yard and I trained Sinister not to leave the yard as well, we never had an issue (he never left the yard and nothing ever came into the yard after him) thank goodness but after seeing so many loose pitbulls in the area and unwanted children playing in my yard I decided to get it fenced in. It is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I love my fence and I can't believe I waited so long to get it.
Like the other's said, who knows why Mac decided he wanted to see a couple of old ladies, maybe they smelled like food. I say get the fence, it might be expensive but you'll be so happy that you have it!
|09-16-2013 09:17 AM|
See if the ladies will recreate the situation with him on a long line. It's hard telling what prompted his change in behavior. I would just try and do evening possible to have control over the dog if it happens again.
|09-16-2013 09:03 AM|
|Caitydid255||Carrie, I'm not going to bash you...in fact, we also let the dogs run free in our unfenced yard as well. 99.9% of the time both pups stay in their yard, and even when in hot pursuit of a squirrel, will slam on the breaks when they reach the property line. I've had Angus go through the property line once while in hot pursuit of a squirrel that had been on our roof. After that incident DH and myself walked the property line with Angus and reinforced his boundaries. We make it a point to walk the boundaries with the dogs at least once a week and reinforce their restrictions. We also don't let them out in the yard unless someone is going to watch them. For Mac, I would suggest going over the boundaries with him again. As for the old lady, you don't know if she had a smell about her that Mac didn't like. You also don't know if one of the ladies called out to the dogs or took some other action that making Mac feel that he needed to respond.|
|09-16-2013 09:02 AM|
|Shade||All it takes is once unfortunately, I'm glad noone was hurt and it sounds like you're considering installing a proper fence and I think that's the right response. He's done it once, that's once too many for me personally.|
|09-16-2013 08:38 AM|
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Let me ask this of the training experts. Would it be a good idea to reinforce the yard boundries? Almost consistantly re-training them on a schedule?
Not saying it wouldn't be a good idea to err on the side of caution for now. I had a similar situation with a GSD of mine but he was and got a dog that trespassed into his driveway but still scared the snot out of the kids that were with the dog. I leashed him from then on when we went out front. But for years up to that point he never left our side.
|09-16-2013 08:26 AM|
I agree with Lucia, and not to excuse what he did, but dog smell is a thousand times better than us, Mac could have picked up a "smell" that he felt was worthy of his actions..
Not going to bash you, accidents happen, just lucky he didn't knock one of them over or worse..
I think your the type of owner who has taken this seriously and won't let it happen again
|09-15-2013 10:23 PM|
Why? Because he can? No one will be able to say why - and I wouldn't say he acted out of character, but rather showed you a side of his character that you were not aware of before.
Hope you have a plan of action that will make sure that Mac does not have the opportunity to repeat his escapade.
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