|09-12-2013 07:24 PM|
Thank you all for your suggestions.
Ill try them all!
I just want the best for him and our relationship.
Gibson says " hi and give me belly rubs please! "
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|09-12-2013 04:23 PM|
Puppy vicious face is normal.
|09-12-2013 04:15 PM|
|Baillif||Those pictures of your "vicious puppy" are cute. A puppy will make those faces when playing. That is normal it isn't vicious even though it may look like it. It isn't coming from a place of anger he is just doing his thing. I have pictures of my puppy doing that kind of thing at 7 weeks old. Don't read too much into it.|
|09-12-2013 03:10 PM|
By any chance, are you clicker training him? You can use the clicker to mark when he comes and give him a high value treat. I know you said he doesn't respond to treats but try a really high value treat to pique his interest - bits of roasted chicken, cold cuts, cheese, cut up pieces of hot dogs, licks of peanut butter, etc. If he doesn't respond to "come" or whichever word you've been using, try a different word to start fresh. If treats don't work you can try a ball, favorite toy or a tug rope.
Be consistent, use the same word every time and give lots of praise and a treat every time he comes. Never get mad when he comes or for coming late. You want it to be a really happy, positive association with him going to you. The more exciting you make it the more excited he'll be to go to you whenever called.
Also, start training inside first. Simply, there are less distractions than being outside and the distance is shorter. Start out with short distances and then work your way up (and outside). At the beginning you might want to "call him over" when he's already on his way to you. With any training, make it as easy as possible for him to learn. I could see him running over for meal time or to go outside, those would be perfect opportunities.
One trick I used when Luke was young (and I still do actually) is crouching when calling. I think the body language of crouching down resembles a play crouch and the pup gets excited and runs over. I would crouch down, call him and open my arms wide as he would run over to me. Maybe you'll have similar luck?
Regarding outside, if he doesn't respond or listen to you when he's outside I wouldn't give him the freedom of being off-leash until he's earned it. I really think when you get through to him and he starts to view you as his leader you'll start to see the difference in everything in your relationship with him. He'll be more obedient and less rebellious.
|09-12-2013 02:44 PM|
Ill try scruffing him and see if it works!!
It will be sad to see him yelp but I think he has taken advantage of the fact that im not in control. I feel he can sense that.
Some people will read this and say that " scruffing " will REALLY make him not trust me, but I believe there is a difference with beating a dog, and redirecting his bad behavior to good behavior.
|09-12-2013 02:33 PM|
From what you've said, it sounds like your puppy trusts you. IMO, I think the issue is that he needs to learn boundaries with you and learn to respect you more. Yes, he's still young but if you feel he's overstepping his boundaries or getting out of line you need to step in and be the firm pack leader. Right now, he's viewing you as a play/litter mate instead of the leader. Don't let him dictate when it's play time. Other people have recommend crate training and I completely agree with that as well.
I can't tell you what to do and everyone has a different method on how to handle these things but I would recommend scruffing him. Grab him by his scruff and raise him off the floor until he starts yelping (you want it to hurt him). I feel scruffing a puppy is body language that they understand (rather than spanking). Of course, the other half of it is redirecting the puppy to what they can or should be playing with instead and giving lots of praise and love afterwards. I think he just needs to be shown what's allowed and what isn't and it's up to you to teach him.
Personally, I've had a tremendous amount of success scruffing Luke when needed. He responds right away to it and he absolutely understands that what he's doing is not allowed. Just for example, I've had to scruff him when he would try to chase or play too roughly with the cats. Bad behaviors need to be nipped when they're young or else it can be a real problem as they get older.
|09-12-2013 02:28 PM|
Thanks. I'll keep trying. I'll look into crating him again.
As for the letting him be a tag-a -long, he definitely is already. Although we try to not take him to run errands with us because he gets car sick so fast and throws up on everything, we do take him with us to get the mail since its walking distance along with everything else you had mentioned.
Any more suggestions on how to at least get him to come to me when I call? Even if I have a treat he doesn't and I know he isnt deaf because he hears me call his name.
|09-12-2013 02:16 PM|
I think MaggieRoseLee is right. It's hard to tell from just still photos but he maybe playing rougher with you because you are his 'best bud' and that's why he snuggles and sleeps with you too.
The other thing is consistency (like engagement) takes time to become established. How long it takes depends on several variables you, your dog, how consistent are you and your family members?
Also you said you practiced a lot, maybe it was too much for him still being so young?
IMHO there's too much to unpack here on the internet....
Really, if you can afford it going to a trainer who can watch you two interact in real time would be your best bet. Feeling frustrated isn't good for you or your puppy.
|09-12-2013 02:15 PM|
Forget about obedience training for a moment, getting him to comply. Not suggesting training goes by the way side and puppy gets to act as he wishes. But bring this pup with you when you run errands, get the mail, put laundry away, let him be a tag-a-long in your every day life. Take a casual walk with him, explore together. Don't gush over him but let him know when he's being a good boy, give him a treat now and again. Find what makes him tick and use to your advantage. Once you have this pups attention and he wants to be around you things get much easier...a bond is starting to form. Perhaps a group training class? This is good for obedience but also bonding.
I'm also a huge fan of crate training. A dog needs to accept down time (at least mine does) there doesn't need to be constant stimulation...crate, take it easy for a moment. I don't even put toys in the crate.
|09-12-2013 01:54 PM|
I have tried engagement.. he has selective hearing and just doesnt care about the treats as soon as he has to listen.
If I take him off the leash outside ( there is a huge field ) he just runs. Wont come to me unless I act like im running away, and definitely wont come for any good treats.
I would love for him to listen and come to me especially act like that puppy in the video with its trainer. Im willing to take any advise and try whatever I can. The dog just doesnt listen.
I do the NILIF thing. Making him stay before he eats, sit before he goes outside or inside.. he does stay, unless he cant see me anymore. I practiced that a lot with him today and he just gets frustrated.
As for the puppy biting its dad.. our dog does play like that. All the time, but those pictures I showed are the complete opposite. I wish someone would see so they could understand. I know he is too young to be in that " alpha " stage, but there is a huge difference between this and him playfully biting too hard.
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