|09-08-2013 10:39 PM|
Theres just so many unknowns to this story to comment either way. Maybe he's a fat lying pig. Maybe he's just dumb and ignorant and thought he was doing right. The officer cant comment if he's under investigation by his department
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|09-08-2013 10:35 PM|
Red pill or the blue.
What side of the fence are you on?
|09-08-2013 07:53 PM|
I never said what the cop did was right. I said he never should of shot someone elses dog. Colorado does have leash laws. As well a dog loose in a yard with no fencing or tie out is considered NOT contained. Therefor largely considered the same as a dog walking down the street.
As well LOTS left out of this story. They officer poked the dog with a stick, then came back. Was that dog REALLY walking around or sunning itself? No in all probability it was down, lateral. MAYBE it got hit by a car. Old, likely very skinny, grey, perhaps covered in blood. Maybe it could of looked like a coyote? Some DO look similar and you can't deny it! My dad use to joke all the time my black and tan luther looked just like a gangly old coyote. Imagine him old, greyed out, covered in blood dying at the side of the road (or end of driveway, call it what you will)
One very upset owner does not justify anything when it comes to reporting. I can tell you the stuff upset owners accuse my work of.
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|09-08-2013 12:48 PM|
Finally, if nothing can be truly asserted, even the following claim would be false, the claim that there is no true assertion. (Aristotle)
|09-08-2013 11:50 AM|
|09-08-2013 11:24 AM|
Oooooo there you go, making the auto-editor work again!!
Yeah, I don't remember you participating in that thread with the famer and Bernese Mountain dogs.....
Like you, for me it's not about what a person does for a living, to me it's about equal treatment under the law and...
It sounds like we are mostly on the same page.
|09-08-2013 11:11 AM|
Seems we had a war to keep agents of the gov't from doing unreasonable searches and seizures, like to keep redcoats from entering our homes without cause to look for stuff, yet here we are today, pulling over willingly saying, Ok, come search me to see if I've done anything wrong"
A bunch of garbage. and I don't know if I partcipated in either of the other threads mentioned, if they were recent, then I haven't, if they were a while ago, maybe I did and forgot but if you go to the cop shooting the rottie incident, I didn't hold back on those guys I don't hold a special disdain for cops and I don't hold a special place in my heart for them either. It's probably why I can't decide if I'm a republican or democrat when voting season comes around :P
|09-08-2013 10:58 AM|
In fairness to you, you did say that (in blue)
However you (and others) then say things like 'it's the media', 'constantly attacking', 'crucifying' and on and on......which is language used to defer, excuse, deflect or at least partially justify what happened.
To me this is about EQUAL treatment under the law. I recall the thread where a small farmer shot two Bernese Mountain Dogs that were ON his property, he claimed they were going after his sheep and then him. The tone of that thread was VERY different even though it could be said he had more justification. No one got on the media in that thread that I recall and the farmer ended up being charged!!
You take exception to the description of him as 'Off duty cop' well it's true so how can that be shoddy reporting? If the guy was a local builder the title would probably be 'Local businessman shoots neighbor's dog'.
But here's the thing that people seem to forget sometimes, police are endowed with more authority then the average citizen ON and OFF duty.
Because of that they ARE held to a higher standard because there is the possibility they may abuse their authority.
What floors me is our country is founded on not allowing or tolerating the abuse of authority but we seem to be increasingly tolerant and complacent when it does happen and it DOES happen. That is way scarier then the actual incident itself....1984........
|09-07-2013 09:32 PM|
Look at the thread about the dogs that are to be euthanized for attacking the pigs. Only those individuals who understand what it means to farmers to have dogs attack their critters were willing to accept that the person who caught the dogs in her barn, and was awarded by the court the decision of the fate of the dogs, everyone else was on the side of the dog owners. Couldn't believe the husky mixes were guilty, accepted that the pig owners tried to extort a huge sum to allow the dogs to live, wouldn't hear that the dogs were guilty of killing chickens in the neighborhood, etc. Problem: the bad guy here, the one that went through channels to deal with the problem was not a cop.
If the pig owner was a cop, everyone would be, like, ok. Yeah, those dogs should be put down.
There is a clear double standard on this forum when it comes to LEOs. Maybe because LEOs and GSDs have a sort of connection. But unless you are biased one way or the other, you can see a total double standard when it comes to them.
|09-07-2013 08:24 PM|
it has nothing to do with the fact that he's a cop. I couldn't care less if he was a cop, a teacher, a plumber or an unemployed neighbor. I stand by what I said in my first post. It wasn't his decision to make, but there could have been 100 other reasons why him making that decision wouldn't look so bad to me.
i don't care if he refused to comment, doesn't change the fact that a story of "off duty cop kills neighbors dog" was based off one single account from a very biased source.
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