|09-06-2013 03:48 PM|
I just hope for your sake it doesn't become a "power struggle" between the two vets like I had! Each of them thought that THEY knew best! It was a nightmare!
|09-06-2013 03:42 PM|
Feeling good about 2nd opinion
We saw a different Vet today.We went through Oliver's entire history. He went through the calendar I made which showed week by week which drugs, tests, and foods he was on. He took the nutriscan test seriously and said he thinks it is a valuable piece of the puzzle and a tool we will use. He looked Oliver over with fresh eyes and noticed he has little red bumps through out his coat and seems to have a rash on his belly. He took hair samples to do a fungal test and he gave us a new antibiotic (Simplecef) to see if the bumps and rash respond to that. He also gave us Hydroxyzine to see if that helps stop the itching. A new shampoo too that will address the fungus element if that is present and part of the problem.
He wants Oliver to stay on the food and diet I created based on the nutriscan results. I know this isn't a true food trial, but this Vet agrees because he is a puppy that this is probably the best for now while he is chewing, growing and going to obedience class. Oliver's diet will be restricted to lamb and beef with the limited ingredient dog foods.
Best of all, he is going to tag-team this with our regular Vet because I do like him and feel he has a lot of history with us. All in all, I feel better than when I originally posted
|09-05-2013 12:58 PM|
|Lauri & The Gang||
Just keep in mind that an elimination diet is impossible with kibble. There are too many ingredients to be able to isolate the one (or ones) that cause the problem.
I would highly suggest an ingredient INCLUSION diet. Start with a single ingredient, give it at least 3-4 weeks and then try adding another ingredient (or switching ingredients if the one you were using didn't make a difference).
This type of diet cannot be done using commercial dog food - not canned or dry. There is no single ingredient food out there.
You can only accomplish an inclusion diet by either feeding raw or home cooked.
|09-05-2013 12:14 PM|
I send my Vet the link to her website and explain who she was when I ask him if he had heard of the test. There is a special link for Vets, but I don't know that he read it or will go that far. I'm pretty resolved to get a 2nd opinion, stick with my nutriscan food trial, and see if things improve in 6 weeks.
|09-05-2013 12:12 PM|
Sounds like we are using the same nature's variety food. It is tough to find treats. Oliver is in a puppy obedience class and I'm struggling to find something to use. I ended up with Wellness beef jerky treats as they are only beef and chicory (beef was the other ok item on his panel). I also found lamb jerk with no other ingredients, but it is really hard to cut up into training treat size and it gets all crumbly in the treat bag. I might have to just make my own, the trouble is finding the time.
I hadn't heard about the calcium issue, I suppose I should ask a Vet or nutritionist about that.
|09-05-2013 10:02 AM|
This is an excellent idea!
That way Dr. Dodds can send her vet the data sheets that explain what/how she is testing which differs from "allergy testing".
|09-05-2013 07:36 AM|
|JeanKBBMMMAAN||Why not have your vet contact Dr. Dodds?|
|09-05-2013 01:15 AM|
Homemade Meat Treats
Non Stick Fry Pan
Choose one of the following meats: Round Steak, Pork Chops, Lamb Slices or Calves Liver
1. Trim off all fat on the edges and/or in-between and if it has a bone in it, remove that too.
Take a pair of scissors (outstanding tool for cutting meat) and cut the chosen meat into manageable pieces. If using Liver, blot dry with paper towel for easier handling after it is unfrozen. You can cook this in whole pieces.
2. Choose a fry pan (non stick is the easiest) that will hold the amount of meat you bought, and give the pan a small drop of oil or a quick spray of Pam.
3. Heat the pan until hot and drop the pieces of meat in to the pan to sizzle. Keep your heat rather high but don’t leave the pan unattended.
4. Sprinkle on a little garlic powder or garlic salt if desired.
5. Let the meat sizzle for about a minute or two then flip over. Braise the other side (pour off the juice during cooking if there is too much). Remove from pan and place on to paper towel, blot and let cool. Note: Only braise the liver to a medium done range on both sides (don’t thoroughly cook it) otherwise it will get crumbly.
6. Take your scissors and cut all of the meat in to strips about ¼” wide. Now take those strips and cut small pieces about the size of a ½ of a dime, (or whatever size you prefer).
7. Place small amounts into seal-able snack baggies, then place those baggies into a seal-able freezer baggie and place in freezer. When you need them, take out one or two baggies, place them in the frig to thaw. Of course the dogs love them frozen too, if you forget!
If you’d like a more “dehydrated” type treat: Heat your oven to 200*. Place your dime size, cut pieces on a non stick cookie sheet and place in oven until dried out, about 1 hour.
The treats take a little time but saves a lot of $$ and the dogs go crazy for them!
“BONE’ APPETITE” MY FURRY FRIENDS!
|09-04-2013 11:59 PM|
Oliver's mom I say go with you gut. It can't hurt try an elimination diet.
Our girl has rash issues that I believe are food allergies as well. (my vet won't commit to an allergy diagnosis because she is a puppy and keeps telling us it's hormones due to growing ). I was thinking about doing the Nutriscan test but didn't know if it was legit. Thanks for sharing your results.
I decided to try an elimination diet and started with a single protein she had never had...lamb. It seems to working. We are currently using Nature's Variety LID lamb. My girl is doing much better since she has been on it. My concern is after I started on it I discovered that is has a calcium content not less than 2 % which I'm told is to high for a GSD puppy. Unfortunately, it may be our only choice as most LID kibbles have this issue we are finding out. Maybe someone on here knows of affordable kibble with limited ingredients and lower calcium?
I don't know if you use wet (canned food) or not. Wellness has a wet food meant to be a topper or mix in that is 95% pure meat that comes in lamb and beef.
Treats are hard to find with limited ingredients. They are $$$ but Orijen has freeze dried single protein all meat treats. The lamb ones are 100 % pure lamb lung. Our fur baby loves them.
Good luck and health to your boy!
|09-04-2013 07:04 PM|
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