|09-04-2013 09:25 PM|
there's many different roads leading to the same destination
but some roads are more direct.
|09-04-2013 09:21 PM|
i taught my dog "stay". when i give him a command he performs it and waits (stays)
untill the next command is given to do something. if i tell
my to "sit", "down", "stop" i can walk away from him and he holds the
position without me saying "stay". i like teaching "stay" because i think
it enforces "stay". as your dog learns give him a command and walk
away from him. if he moves put him back in position and walk away.
mix walking away without saying "stay" and walking away saying "stay".
he'll learn to "stay" untill the next command.
|09-04-2013 07:46 PM|
|Kaun||Thanks for your views so far. What I enjoy about dog training is that there are a lot of different roads to the same destination|
|09-03-2013 06:09 PM|
I use Stay when I want him to remain in his last position. No excuses, he is NOT allowed to change position.
Wait for him means either I have some new instruction coming or I want him to wait until I can catch up. He may do anything while he waits as long as he doesn't bugger off and ignore me.
Im all about having a formal cue that's impressive and solid (Stay) and a more relaxed cue that's comfortable and relaxed (Wait).
I always follow up sit/down with another cue... sometimes its a stay command, sometimes its a ready command... but I have tendency to give my dog a TON of information even if its not always necessary.
|09-03-2013 05:16 PM|
|katdog5911||I started with "stay" and "wait" commands but am trying to phase "stay" out. I still like to use "wait" for times when I am going to have her do something else in a few seconds...like when we are playing fetch and she is jumping around trying to get the ball or I have her sit, and she is all pumped up wanting to get the ball, but I want her to wait for the "go get it" command. I guess I could probably do without "wait" but it seems to be a kind of "settle down for a second" command.|
|09-03-2013 02:23 PM|
|Blanketback||My training is only for a well behaved dog, so using "stay" as a double command works very well for me. I can mix it up with other words or phrases that my dog knows, such as "in your bed," "in the house," "quiet," "down," "here," etc...almost as though I'm actually teaching my dog English, lol. I would rather use it this way, because otherwise I'd have to constantly be using a release word. I think if this were the case, the dog would always be anticipating the release, rather than just following direction.|
|09-03-2013 12:59 PM|
My position on this one has changed over time (fortunately slowly enough that it hasn't confused my poor dogs too much).
I used to add "Stay" as a double command after every position change, so it would be "Sit-Stay" or "Down-Stay" or whatever. I didn't have a particular reason for doing it this way, it was just a habit I developed.
In some competition venues, you get dinged for that because it's considered a double command, so I stopped doing it that way and cleaned up my cues to a single command. Now the "Stay" is implied, so I usually just give the position cue (sometimes I have to add a "Stay" for clarity depending on the exercise, as it's not 100% faded yet and can be helpful depending on the total context of what we're working on).
I still teach and use "Stay" separately to mean "freeze right now in whatever position you're in, and don't move" because I find that helpful for getting the Stand out of Motion (it can be tricky to differentiate from a default Sit otherwise) and also when the dogs happen to be in an arrangement and position that I want to photograph while out hiking. I haven't yet gotten to the point where they will freeze perfectly -- they tend to settle into the nearest taught position equivalent -- but it's a goal that I work toward sporadically. We may or may not ever get there, I dunno.
|09-03-2013 10:06 AM|
I have never used either stay or wait. Sit, down or stand means until I give you another command or until I release you. I may give command from far away or walk back and ditto for release.
Don't see the reason for adding in 2 extra commands that each mean something a little different. Seems confusing for me and the dog
|09-02-2013 11:00 PM|
What bugs me the most is when people tell their dogs to 'stay' with no intention of requiring them to actually stay. Like when they head out the door for work and say "Fido, STAY" when they actually mean "Fido, don't follow me out the door". There's no way they can expect that dog to hold a position on the other side of the door for an 8 hour workday. Then they're confused when the dog only holds a 'stay' command for 30 seconds and hops up during training!
|09-02-2013 10:42 PM|
i think no matter what command you're teaching once your dog is performing the command he or she waits for the next command
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