|09-28-2013 04:12 PM|
Ill jump in on this one.
I've been a club level decoy for both sports.
There are are times where their paths cross and other times where they are far apart.
In French Ring the idea is to test the dog from the decoy. That's why there are no set esquieves. There are things the dog has to do, the pallisade, the jumps, heeling, guard the object, run the blinds, but its not as clearly defined as say IPO.
A perfect example. The dog runs the blinds, decoy tries to escape, fires a shot. Out. Move, 2nd shot out. Then escort/transport as
In PSA the idea is to put pressure on the dog with the decoy but mostly from their use of objects. Jugs with rocks in them, hoola hoops with caution tape over them, water, a leaf blower etc. The idea is to pressure the dog see if they give in both OB and bitework, but to also and test how clear headed they are under very intense situations.
Both are great sports since they are forcing a dog to be very strong, but not a psycho who only goes down the field and hangs on for the ride and doesn't out.
|09-03-2013 01:37 AM|
|09-02-2013 10:32 PM|
Well, sweet! Looks like good comparisons have been made by all, lol!
All I'll add is that crackem is quite accurate in stating the similarity of the two sports pretty much ends at the fact that they require a dog.
Blitzkrieg - I wonder if we've met? I was at the Canada trial as well
Konotashi - who is your breeder? PSA is a GREAT sport.. if you get the right dog, it can really be tons of fun
|08-29-2013 07:40 PM|
Interesting points made.
Just wanted to chime in a bit here, LOL.
When I went to "Find a Club" on PSAK9's website, my breeder was the contact person for the only club in AZ.
I think I might've struck gold!
|08-29-2013 01:04 PM|
|Josie/Zeus||I had to push my showline to prove he can do it and did. Besides, he enjoyed it. Too bad we had to quit early.|
|08-29-2013 12:59 PM|
More power to those who are doing it. I no longer care about the title craze. I work my dogs, if we title we do, if not we don't. So if anyone is willed to drive the 5-6 hours to do PSA, great for them. I'm not and I can guarantee you the growth you see is minimal compared to the size of the country!
|08-29-2013 12:51 PM|
Some years ago, I was very much into Schutzhund, driving crazy miles in the Bay area to train etc. My showline hated it, he's decided to be a therapy dog instead and was great at it.
PSA's OB is rooted from Schutzhund, I have seen a lot of good upper level dogs that are spectacular in OB. For me, that is the strength of that sport. PSA's OB is lots of distraction while the dog is focused on the handler. It is very hard! You think your dog is all that and a bag of chips till he craps on the field. You just never know!
I love the GSD breed, but after getting into PSA, I love the sport more.
|08-29-2013 12:01 PM|
|08-29-2013 11:51 AM|
|GSDElsa||Um I hate to say it but there are dogs in every sport that have no business with a title whether it Schh psa fr rally etc. The reasons might be different but it's the fact of life. The bottom line is imo that the more popular a sport is the "easier" it is to a certain extent at the lower levels because not everyone doing it is trying to achieve going to world's. Let's face it. .. how many dogs go to the psa nationals at each level? Basically a psa 1 as long as you finish you are pretty much on the podium. Now compare that to schh. Sure you can say there are dogs at the club and regional level that are weak but let's face it. ... If the dog is at wusv and from a country where schh is popular is not going to be run of the field and isn't a crappy dog. And it would be apples top oranges to say if the dog that wins wusv is better or worse than a dog that wins psa nationals.|
|08-29-2013 11:29 AM|
I will mention there is a member on here that posted her SL male on a suit that looked good. As much as you can tell anything about a dog through clips he looked pretty decent. Thats as good as gold right there. I hope he gets bred and makes other black and red dogs of working calibre. . Could he handle the envronmental pressure of PSA? Only she knows.. Generalities folks.
Fyi PSA is growing K. My breeder and others advised me that to be competetive in one sport you must focus on it and exclude all others. From what I have seen people that do both generally are in it for titles and to create something in their dog that sport competition wont create.
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