|08-27-2013 05:36 AM|
And for all the recent responses, Dead on cue, This is all excellent information, and i will be bookmarking this for later reminders, He has shown major improvement since 8 am 4:40 am now ( tired! Been playing on and off all night ) but again, I really appreciate it, and all the different answers will be good to combine into my way...
If I have questions I Know who to ask, Glad to have such knowledgeable people around!
|08-27-2013 02:23 AM|
And if you want videos check out.... whats the name? Tap something on youtube... young guy, gorgeous female shepherd... you'll see it...
He's GREAT with training advice and videos. His videos helped with the "leave it" for me, was easier than ever to train!
|08-27-2013 02:18 AM|
Out in the "real world" MAYBE he knows it, if I have hot dogs and IF there are no other interesting dogs roaming by.
He is a child still...teach through PLAY just like with children. Engage in fetch...throw the ball, make a racket until he comes back praise like crazy...hold the ball over his head and the second his butt touches the ground say SIT and then praise...say "wait" and a milisecond later toss the ball...working up slowly, ever so slowly! Timing has to be JUST RIGHT for that all to work...and dont expect tight obedience.
Sending him away? Not sure I agree with that! Sure, he will learn something from a stranger, but will he do it for you? Schutzhund takes YEARS for people to perfect with their dog, and they were the ones doing all the training for days, months, years.
Could I possibly do it with Sabo? Sure. Am I going to? No. Why? Because I can't guarantee with two active kids, a full time job and a husband who works full time that we will have all the time needed, and a half trained SchH dog is a liability IMO.
|08-27-2013 12:46 AM|
|VickyHilton||When our puppy was 9 weeks old (and extremely mouthy with everyone including our a seven year old child), we hired a trainer at the advice of our vet. He kept/needed to remind us (total newbie idiots) that he was baby infant, at NINE WEEKS old. I am trying to remeber when he graduated into baby status, rather than infant, but it was a several months on. While Jax was still a "baby," (4/5 months) we had him in a group akc obedience class where the trainer recommended a prong for him. He cried, I felt like ****, and our trainer said it was totally unnecessary for our (excellently tempered baby) to be pronged rather than corrected with limited-slip. Needless to say, IT has not been used since. And we quit the program.|
|08-27-2013 12:30 AM|
Most of us don't even get our puppy until they are 7 or 8 weeks old.
Then our top training concerns should be:
Engagement - Key to Training
Teaching a trick is the least important part of teaching tricks
Intro to Clicker Training (perfect for puppies!)
Why bother to 'socialize' and I want photos/videos of puppies/dogs.....
|08-27-2013 12:22 AM|
|Guzzo||Thanks Lucy! Gonna Watch that after A Place Beyond The Pines ( Doesnt Seem to be all that great)|
|08-27-2013 12:20 AM|
Hey Guzzo... clicker training is a great idea for your puppy. If you're unsure how the clicker works, check this guy out on youtube. He does a really good job explaining everything. Start with the basics. Introduce the clicker correctly before you start teaching tricks. Good luck.
Dog training explained - YouTube
|08-27-2013 12:16 AM|
For example, if you spend some time hanging out with him and he lays down on the floor you can click (or mark it verbally), and then toss a treat a few feet away so he has to get up to get it. Wait for him to lay down again and when he does, click and toss a treat. Rinse, repeat. The more you reward him for laying down, the quicker and more frequently he's going to do it, and at that point you can add the cue right before you can see he's going to do it anyway, then click/treat when he does. That's how he'll make the association between your cue and the behavior.
But there's no need to rush that part, just keep in mind that everything you reinforce (reward with a treat), he's going to start doing more of. This works especially well for eye contact - I do eventually ask my dogs for eye contact with the "watch" command, but long before that I mark and reward them when they look at me spontaneously, without me asking them to. After a couple of weeks of this, Halo, and Keefer when he was a puppy, would lay on the floor and stare at me if I tossed them a treat occasionally.
Because your puppy is still very young you don't need to worry about telling him what to do yet. Rewarding them for sits and downs is obvious, and marking and rewarding when they come towards me will eventually become my recall command - "come" or "here", or whatever you prefer to use. There's no point in giving a command to a young puppy when they have no idea what it means, which is why I prefer to just start reinforcing things without asking for any particular behavior at first.
Does that make sense?
|08-27-2013 12:12 AM|
Have you taken him to the vet when you got him? Was he checked for parasites?
Other than that, I recommend what everyone else has already said, they are all bang on. I'm sorry you have been getting such strange and weird advice for your pup, wonder where people get such ideas - a prong on a baby?
Just relax - he didn't come from a good start, might take a while for him to catch up mentally, but I'm sure he will. Training should be fun for a pup - they shouldn't even know that they are being trained, to them, it should all just be a fun game. So if your pup is not having fun, you're not doing it right - not to criticize, but to give you guidelines on what to aim for. At this age, he should just be learning to be comfortable with you, get rewarded for looking at you, every little movement towards you is a "good boy!" and something good happens. Break down the behaviours you want into tiny increments, and reward that. Since he won't eat treats, use his meals as training opportunities. Hand feed him for a few meals, then start very slowly to introduce some training. If he looks at you he gets a piece of food. If he makes to move towards you he gets food. Teach him to follow your hand movement with the food, this can be used for luring him into position later on when you are doing more advanced stuff. At first, a very small hand movement that he tries to follow results in getting a piece of food, then slowly, over the next few meals your hand movements get bigger, he has to move physically to follow the hand, etc.
At first, don't make him work too hard - for a young pup, no attention span, everything is brand new, it is exhausting for him to figure out what he is supposed to do, so keep it short, and make it easy for him. He needs some very basic foundations like this, sounds like he was raised in isolation away from people and hasn't yet figured out that people are good to know and to follow around.
|08-26-2013 11:49 PM|
So if I call him, And he comes I click and treat and praise.
how do I click and treat for sitting etc? If im not commanding how do i just say good job? how will he know that is what I want? this is a bit confusing to me without asking for something to be done.
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