|08-26-2013 03:48 AM|
On the animated versus non-animated talking, I'd have to say this is not the issue, as it's been with too many different people of different appearances, demeanors, and voices. Good thought though. You're right that unusual things could cause this, a family member once walked out of a door and made a funny, faux-angry voice at him, something that you'd do to a little kid. It was so out-of-the-blue though, he wasn't expecting it and it freaked him out and he started rapid barking. Smoothed that over at the time and he was fine.
David, good advice. It's still a little hard to get his attention when he's distracted, but he's getting better. I am trying to be very patient and understanding, but firm, it seems to be paying off. With the friends, this is everyone who comes to my house, it's definitely more of a protecting of territory. I've seen his jealousy, with other dogs, we've actually already worked through this. He would try and come between me and the other dogs. He now sees it's ok when I pet other dogs that come up to me. With the visitors, he's just very vocal when someone arrives, he doesn't try to get between us, he's just letting them know that he wants them to leave. Once they are here though, and he sees that I'm accepting of them, he quiets down almost right away, and then is fine for the duration.
|08-25-2013 09:51 PM|
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|08-25-2013 06:32 PM|
2) You, perhaps, admire and respect your friend, it could be very subtle, but your dog detects it. He is jealous of you, he's exibiting his posessiveness through protection. Ask him to sit whilst he is barking, squat yourself down next to him and pat him on his chest with the word "Quiet!", patting affects diaphragm, making his barking difficult. Pet him if he stops. Make a ritual out of meeting your friend, with sitting down and his paw stretching out. But, if he insists on barking - take him into another room (unlocked) every time he barks.
|08-25-2013 05:00 PM|
|erfunhouse||Are these people "talking with their hands"??? Are you a "Non hand talker"? We are very animated talkers in our house- tone changes, hand motions, loud and quiet interchangeably...and I notice with "still talkers" Sabo thinks they are just plain WEIRD and he has no clue what he's doing, so we ignore him when he's barking, and it usually works.|
|08-25-2013 04:55 PM|
I'm thinking this is the second fear stage. It's strange because it's not consistent in situations where you think it would be. He never barks at anyone when we go for walks, he's very calm around people and other dogs, aside from getting a little excited and wanting to play with the dogs if we stop right by them. He had also started hanging out closer by me at the dog park, rather than exclusively running around and playing with the other dogs. This coincided with the barking. The park is currently on hold while I work a little more on training to boost his confidence. The situation when people come to the house has already improved, he still barks like mad when they first get here and walk up the deck stairs, but then once they sit down, he calms down almost instantly, and he gets loads of compliments and treats for being good. After that, he's quiet and well-behaved for the rest of the time they're here. This happened when I stopped actively trying to quiet him down, and started ignoring him while he was displaying the undesirable behavior. Thanks for all the advice so far, I'll keep you posted.
|08-24-2013 09:47 PM|
5&1/2 months old he needs training, socializing and constant guidance but you
have to provide that.
|08-24-2013 09:42 PM|
|08-23-2013 02:40 PM|
This sounds extremely similar to my Zelda.
I've tried a lot of things from what people have said on here, and either i am not good at the techniques and training or Zelda has a severe fear aggression towards people that is out of my training ability.
Basically what it comes down to, I am finally getting a trainer to do a private session in my home to help me.
When i first met her she was barking and barking at me and would stay as far away from me as possible, but when she was in my car she warmed up to me right away.
I didn't know much about her, and i took her for walks and at first when people would try to pet her she would just bark and move away from them, i didnt read her body language than. And thought "it would be good for her to socialize." So despite her obvious body language of, "I dont feel comfortable with this situation!" i still let people try to pet her at first.
She took the petsmart beginner class, the trainer couldn't even pet her till the last class. No interaction with anyone except a petsmart worker who would throw treats at her until she took it from their hand. She also snapped at a girl the first training day at petsmart, this is when i new i had to be a lot more careful! At first i thought it was fear, than i thought it was guarding me, and now i feel its just pure fear aggression.
Now, on walks, i avoid any confrontation with people. If they come close and i cannot avoid them for whatever reason, i tell them, "my dog needs space." I also have a hat i wear that says, "In training. Ignore Dog." Don't be afraid to say these things to strangers. In my opinion generic things like "my dog needs space, we are in training," is better, because people dont usually get fearful of that and yet understand that they need to avoid your dog. I feel like when people are told, "My dog has fear aggression" or "My dog isnt good with new people" "my dog isnt friendly" - it makes the people's energy be fearful or distrusting at least, and dogs can read this and can react to it.
My brother recently came home from Iowa, he hasnt met my dog. I had him completely ignore her even when she went up to sniff him. And it worked. Three days after, they are on the couch together and he can pet her and I trust them 95% together! So this brings hope to me, that its defiantly workable. So perhaps if you have a trusted few people you can invite over, to completely ignore your dog. So they are not threats, its not big deal. They have no interaction with them at all.
It is also important to be sure that your energy isn't worked up when you see a stranger coming or if they are coming over. Dogs can read this, and i know for me it is very hard to stay calm. But it does make a big difference.
For a little while Zelda was lunging at people on our walks, but i have her sit and let her watch people pass by and wait till they are ways away and praise her for being good and not lunging or barking, and it has stopped. I think that is as far as I am comfortable with doing with her and is why I am having a trainer come out to help me with this and with many other things.
My advice for you is:
-Stop the dog parks.
-Get a reputable professional trainer to help you!! (Because what i say is just from my experience, and i cannot see your dog doing the behavior so its hard to say if it is fear aggression or something else.)
-Ask people to COMPLETELY ignore your dog. (No talking, eye contact, or touching- not even if the dog comes up to the person, completely ignoring!)
- Be "smart" on walks or any social interaction.
Good luck! I hope this helped you some. If anything know that I am in the same boat!
|08-23-2013 01:53 PM|
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|08-23-2013 12:35 PM|
There is a chance if you give the treats to the stranger to give to the dog that the dog will start to demand treats from the strangers. You don't want this cause they will start showing behaviors you didn't expect. A benign one would be to pull for strangers and I'm guessing you don't want this.
Another less benign one is they go up to a stranger get a treat then go up to another stranger get a treat over and over. Then one day they go up to another stranger he gives no treat, perhaps giving the puppy a strange stare and the puppy is like where the **** is my treat!? CHOMP!
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