|08-20-2013 08:43 PM|
bailiff, I've not been doing anything for recall training really. Just a 'dani, heere' and then we have a party when she comes to me. Not a good way to go, I know. Now that it's just me and her (no more kids here for the summer) i'm looking forward to getting some more serious training in. and she's a soft dog. usually wants to please, but has her moments of aloofness too. not a very playful puppy. she won't chase a ball or toy unless you work really hard at it. she sits and watches me make a fool of myself but doesn't usually want to play. she came to me this way about 6 weeks ago.
also, she loves her crate. i find her in it often just taking a nap. i will be working to start a schedule every day to work with her on her recall and other basic commands. i'm currently not working and she can come with me to do chores on the farm on leash. i usually let her run but i think limiting her options and making her look to me for everything is the way to go with this girl. and yes, i've read some of your posts on other threads - makes sense to me.
|08-20-2013 08:13 PM|
It's hard to say. The pooping in the crate thing is maybe a digestive issue. If that just started its likely because she couldn't help it. Stay the course with what you are doing in that regard because I think that will work.
As for recall issues. If you ever recalled her to punish her or recalled her when she was having fun to put her up she could be viewing it as a bad thing. Is she a soft dog? By soft I mean she acts very sensitive to you raising your voice or yelling. If this is the case then maybe you used too strong a tone at some point, and shes going into a submissive mood with submissive gestures to attempt to placate you for what she perceives is you being ticked off. It's possible you punished her disobedience to the recall when she wasn't fully aware of why she was being punished, and that caused her to anticipate punishment when you gave your recall command.
It is hard to say. If you haven't been consistently reinforcing your recall command then yeah your dog will not respect it. How did you teach it before and what did you do if the dog didnt obey? That might shed some light on it.
|08-20-2013 07:55 PM|
thanks for the training tips. Can you tell me if her change in behavior is normal, puppy, I've discovered you aren't making me stuff or do you think something else is going on? i'd be thrilled to hear it's a 'phase' and we can work through it. but if something else is going on i'd like to know so i can deal with it.
btw... i apologize for my grammar errors with no capitals. the stinking keyboard is killin' me.
|08-20-2013 07:19 PM|
|Baillif||One more rule I almost forgot to mention. You want this recall command to be pure. So whatever command you were using before forget about it use a new one. Keep it pure. The recall command is sacred so don't use a word you are going to use too much. If you're the kind of person that absentmindedly uses come here or something like that to call a dog when you aren't 100% serious then don't use those words for your recall. Use a foreign word like Kemne (czech for come) or Ici (E see) French for come. If you use english words be aware of when you say them and make **** sure your dog comes when you are sure the dog heard it. If not then the dog doesn't eat that day.|
|08-20-2013 06:53 PM|
Almost forgot another one I like to do as the dog is pretty far a long in its training is to recall my dog while it is playing with a dog we both know. As soon as the dog comes you give them the treat and let them go right back to playing. Wait a bit and do it again. If the dog doesn't come you go over and put a leash on the dog and playtime is over and ofc there is no feeding that day too.
You stick to this kind of training for a few weeks and you will eventually be able to recall that dog even if it is chasing a cat or deer or the neighbors dog and not on leash. It is hugely effective and a potential life saver.
|08-20-2013 06:46 PM|
What kind of recall training are you doing? What do you do if she fails her recall?
In any case here is how Id train recall.
First don't feed her for a day. The dog can easily go this long without food. Take away her bowl too she doesn't eat from that anymore for now. From here on out she gets fed during recall training only. You will probably feel sorry for the dog. That's ok. Don't give in though.
Now some rules for you to start. Never recall your dog away from something fun while she is learning the recall. Never recall your dog to put her away in her crate. Never recall your dog to you to put her on her leash. Never recall your dog to bring her back inside. Try to avoid any situation at first where you aren't 100% she will come when recalled. This is to start off with ofc this wont be permanent. You want to start off with the dog building motivation to come and in order to do this you want it associated with positive things only, not the ending of something positive. Just walk over calmly and get your dog if you need to get your dog and it meets any of the criteria above.
After 24 hours of not eating she will be very hungry and very interested in learning how to get her next meal since it doesn't magically appear in her bowl everyday like usual. To start you go somewhere with minimal distraction or no distractions at all. Use a flexilead or a long line leash to keep the dog from running away. Have a friend or family member hold the dog in place. Go up to the dog with treat or food in hand and wave it under her nose and then take off running away from her. Look back and when she is going nuts trying to chase you call her name and then use your recall command (make sure you are still running when you do this because it will stack three drives her prey drive as well as her desire to eat and be with you). At that moment have your partner release the dog. When it is clear the dog is heading for you say yes! or click if youre a clicker person and give the dog some food. Repeat this several times running in different directions and distances before you give the recall command. Do this several times a day and different times of day. Each session will last between 2 and 10 minutes. Do not continue this until the dog is full, leave the dog wanting more, but make sure your dog is getting plenty to eat throughout the day. If at any time the dog fails to recall do not do anymore exercises with the dog for the rest of the day and do not feed the dog anymore that day. If the dog doesn't come the dog doesn't eat. She will get the point very quickly.
After 3-5 days of this your dog will have it down and is ready for the next step. Recalling away from something somewhat interesting. Again use your partner in crime. This time you will have your dog on a long line or flexilead at a distance. The dog will be with your partner being teased with a treat of less or equal value to the treat you will be using to reward the dog when it comes to you. Your partner will tease the dog with the food but as soon as you give the recall command your partner will cover the food and look away, ignoring the dog. Your dog should immediately peel off and come running for you and when she does you say YES! or click and then give her what you have. If your dog immediately peels off after you give the food and goes to your partner that's fine just restart the exercise. Your dog will get very good at this exercise very quickly. Continue to do this several times a day and several repetitions. After a few days of this when you feel the dog has it down at this point you can continue to do exercise 1 and 2 but this time in different places. Do it in the front yard the back yard inside and if you can find a relatively quiet field or low distraction strange environment do it here too to help the dog generalize the command. The recall command means come everywhere. It should be practiced till it is reflexive.
Try taking the dog on a long leash walk where the dog is allowed to pull way ahead or lag way behind and as soon as she finds something engrossingly interesting like a strange smell give the recall command and treat appropriately. Just be careful not to make it too much of a distraction too fast like a squirrel a fence with another dog behind it.
Eventually you can start stepping up the difficulty of the exercises. Have the dog recall away from chasing a person running with a treat or a toy. Make sure the person stops when you give the recall command at first so that the dog has an increased chance of being successful. We don't want the dog starving we just want her properly motivated for the task at hand. Eventually the person will be able to continue running and the dog will just peel off and come back for her reward.
As the dog gets older you can transition from food reward to tug or toy reward instead and she can have her bowl back.
|08-20-2013 05:55 PM|
5 month old behavior changed...
I need some advice please..
3 nights in a row this week my puppy has pooped in her crate. We come inside for the last time around 11 pm. I wake at 6 am to her gagging/throwing up from eating her poop. Yuck. I've trained her to ring bells attached to my front door when she needs to go out. Last night I put them on the door to her crate and at 4am took her out. At 5 am she rang the bells and out she went. NO problems. Hoping this has solved the poop in the crate issue.
Next is her dismal recall. I haven't done a lot of ''Training'' on this. I just make it out to be a big party when she comes when called and she's been doing great! Until the last few days. I call her and she looks at me as she slinks away. Which really ticks me off. IF I beat her I could understand but since I don't.... anyway, I put her leash on her and worked on her recall today. Still having a party when she comes to me and have added small bites of weinie. Took her a few times to get better but she really acts like I've done her wrong and I can't think of anything I've done to make her behave this way.
If anyone has any other suggestions or, better yet, a possible explanation of why she's started behaving this way I would appreciate the help.