|08-29-2013 12:23 AM|
|08-27-2013 12:20 PM|
Thank you so much! We are having a behaviorist come on Thursday to teach ME how to be with HIM and how to guide HIM. I do have some issues from our last dog getting attacked at random times when I walked him, and I am more than sure my fear is compounding the "puppy" issue with Sabo. I am working so hard to deal with that fear and taking a calming breath and relaxing when we are out with Sabo. It's a large work in progress. Sometimes I figure he and I may just be better if I take a valium before a walk.
|08-27-2013 12:15 PM|
Carriesue- It's about a two hour drive for me especially through traffic or else I would be all over it!
David- I dont care too much about him playing with other dogs, the embarassing part is when we are just out for a walk and he goes nuts at other families with their dogs also walking. We do finally have two other shepherd puppies in our area that we play with! He's great with those two and since they are also Shepherd I dont have to worry that he plays rough or barks all scary like, they understand the frustrated bark as their dogs exhibit the same behavior, however, on leash I do believe it's frustration/fear.
|08-22-2013 04:58 AM|
|Carriesue||Where do you live again in SoCal? Might be a bit far from you but every Tuesday evening the San Diego GSD club holds free outdoor obedience classes. My dog is leash reactive too right now and I use the classes just to get him around dogs on leash. It's great because the people who run it also run an IPO club, they are very GSD savvy and don't bat an eye when a dog is acting a fool like that though they might impart some tough love... Like prong corrections. There's usually 20 plus dogs there and no one cares if my dog barks though strangely he isn't reactive there. it's and hour drive for me but so worth it and hey can't beat the price!|
|08-22-2013 04:22 AM|
Why do people find it necessary for their dogs to play with strange dogs? My dogs lead interesting, exiting, full lives with my family. They are trained to ignore other dogs, and people for that matter.
We have some family friends that bring their dog over when they visit, but this is a regular thing, and the dogs know each other well. That all started because their dog was DA, and I used my dogs for counter-conditioning.
Why not just desensitize the dog to other dogs to remove the reactivity and leave it at that? If you spend 4 months or more training to remove the fear, just one bad experience with a strange dog could bring it all back, and it may be much worse.
It's it really worth it?
|08-22-2013 03:00 AM|
Baillif-- I do thank you for your reply. I'm on my phone so proper reply is hard! Will reply when I am off work and at a computer
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|08-22-2013 02:59 AM|
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|08-22-2013 02:53 AM|
Wow, you guys take things so seriously. I had my puppy over to a home with 6 mature dogs that know not to harm the puppy. He was getting wild with one of them and she put him in his place. One quick bark and nip and he fell over and started to act more mature around the pack..
Do all of you live in the city?
|08-20-2013 11:04 AM|
A puppy getting his ass kicked by an adult dog is the best way to make a puppy a dog aggressive dog for life.
First off next time you take Sabo out on walks and he either gets reactive or he does not get reactive I want you to try to pay attention to a few things. Is the other dog in control? Is it paying attention to its owner and minding its own business or is it posturing, way out in front of its owner, and taking definite interest in your pup? Sabo is possibly (and probably) reacting to the behaviors he sees in the other dog. It is easier for Sabo to stay calm and pass a dog that is staring straight ahead and in control than a dog that is staring at him, showing dominant postures, barking, and trying to pull his way, or any combination of those things.
Also pay attention to your positioning. Are you between Sabo and the other dog or is he between you and the other dog? You should be between him and the strange dog if you want to increase the chances of him being successful. If his reactions are fear based this will help put him at ease. Be calm around strange dogs and people but be in a defensive mind set. You never know when someone will lose control of their dog and they will dart for you and you will need to be there to stop that other dog. Sabo will take notice of this.
Next pay attention to your own energy. Do you get apprehensive and nervous because you aren't sure how Sabo will react? Do you get embarrassed when he reacts badly? Does this contribute to your nervousness if that is the case? Keep a level head even if the Sabo loses his ****. Don't mind reactions given by neighbors or strangers. Don't get embarrassed. He's a little guy still hes in training, and who gives a crap what they think. Focus on your little guy. If you start feeling that nervousness when you're approaching try to suppress it. Take a second to relax before continuing forward if you need to. If you feel it your puppy probably feels it coming from you too.
As for your question about the methods they were using they are definitely questionable. Especially method 2. When a dog is barking out of fear or nervousness in a situation they are already in a state of mind that isn't very conducive to them listening to you or learning anything new. Plus it is kind of like yelling at a crying kid to STOP CRYING. Many times it just makes the crying worse, and in this situation you are introducing more stress to a dog that is reacting like that because he is already under stress.
Expecting the sit (an obedience behavior) when the dog is clearly not engaged with you because he is focused on the threat is also stupid. He might not even be able to hear you because of his focus on the threat, and even if he physically hears you his cognitive ability is diminished because of flight or fight response. It's like screaming NO! To stop dogs from fighting. They just fight harder because they hear loud noises, the meaning of the word doesn't register to them in this state but the energy of the noise does.
Furthermore putting a dog in a sit makes him vulnerable in the dog world. Putting a dog in a down makes him vulnerable in the dog world. If you ever want to test this out make a dog down when hes around other dogs. They will go from ignoring him to converging on him and jump on him or attempt dominance behaviors on him. Asking for this from your dog in front of a strange dog unless he is very disciplined or trusts you implicitly is not going to happen without force. Even recalling a dog to you in a dog park can make your dog vulnerable to an attack from behind. Dogs instinctively know this. You can work to get a dog to obey in these situations, and you should, but it isn't the way to fix reactivity that is fear based because it creates more stress and makes the situation even more unpleasant and reinforces his previous behaviors.
|08-19-2013 05:46 PM|
|jae||sounds like my dog. he is a puppy and is being a puppy. he is probably catching slack from older dogs because of the puppy in him. socialize him around well tempered and stable dogs and he will learn when to back off. this may or may not include the ass whoopin', not as an attack on your dog, just another dog saying back the f off. let the dogs work it out.|
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