|09-05-2013 05:20 PM|
Don't give up. Long line is a must. and Selzer (as always) is right.....choose a word (Come, here, whatever) and even if he accidentily happens to come your way, in your direction and to you, say "good come" and praise him like he's won the lottery. Mine will literally skid to a stop, even if chasing a rabbit, and come to me when I say the word....but it didn't happen overnight. I always tell my new families, the first thing to teach is come. IMO it is the single most important thing to teach because of the safety factor.
You will regret it if you give him up and when he turns a year old you see him walking down the street off leash with some lucky person who got him and didn't give up.
|09-05-2013 04:30 PM|
Getting a perfect recall with tons of distractions...well it takes time. Even the best puppies out there are not going to be perfect at that point, they are puppies. GSD puppies are going to test you, especially if they have a high drive. Calm down, if you and your trainer aren't seeing eye to eye, then get a new one. I would honestly even bump the training back to 3x a week and do small sessions with just you and your dog at home. Get a nice long lead (30ft) and get out there with your dog and start making it as fun as possible to come back to you. Check out lou castles page on e-collars and start getting ready.
It almost sounds like your training regiment is stressing out the puppy a bit. Too much work will drive them a little nuts at that age. Unless there was a critter out there, my GSD really doesn't like to be more than 15-30 ft from me at all times anyway when she was a pup. Now she stays even closer, unless i verbally tell her she can get out and do what she wants. Slow down, catch your breath, and start shopping around for a trainer that you work with a little better.
These things are really hard to diagnose over the internet anyways. I went through several trainers before I found one that I really liked.
|08-24-2013 10:59 AM|
the dog is 4 months old.. he is a baby... stop expecting so much from a baby . he has the attention span of a gnat since he is a baby so he wont learn to not bolt out the doors until he is older. put a martingale collar on him , put baby gates in front of all doors so he cant bolt out when they are opened and just enjoy the puppy for now with playing and simple obedience stuff like sit,down, come, heel.... give the pup a chance to be a puppy and have FUN with your puppy.. stop expecting so much from a puppy right now.
the potty training- start over and take him out every time he eats/sleeps/plays /wakes up. find his signal that he has to go- some dogs sniff, some pace, some whine- find his signal and go from there. keep him leashed to you or crated so that he cant have free roam and have accidents. take a drink and relax....
|08-24-2013 03:53 AM|
Hmm odd post but at least your being honest. Try to remember that your dog's life is tragically short in comparison...learn to appreciate everything good or "bad" because really you don't have a lot of time. I look back and laugh at the "bad" things my old dog did and I would not trade these experiences for the world!
I can fully understand being frustrated by recall. I had a year old feral border collie/ german shep. that I was trying to train at the age of 11 with no help. Some days on our hike/walk I would literally be screaming for an hour trying to get her to stop chasing deer...or one memorable time a bear cub.
Make sure your not taking other frustrations out on your dog, try to find something you two enjoy together, playing tug of war or something. Maybe watch Marley and Me haha...I can still only watch 3 quarters of that movie. Can't bring myself to watch the end.
Oh and get a better trainer and try a new attitude because dogs can tell
|08-20-2013 09:54 PM|
|Al Pozzolini||Give the dog a break for a while and just practice what he already knows what to do until he's 100% again on the potty training. There's no point in having an awesome dog that pee's in the house. Then get a new trainer that you feel 100% confident in. If you don't like the trainer, the dog will catch on to that and you'll be back to pushing water up hill.|
|08-20-2013 09:10 PM|
I feel your pain OP. I used to wonder what I got myself into in the early stages of puppy ownership. But 5 months later I know I made the right choice. I had to work on "me" cause I realized I was giving mixed signals sometimes. Not intentionally but it happens. I also changed from food to using his toy for training. Made a WORLD of difference. It is literally like a different dog. He is amazingly focused on me now when we are in high traffic areas whereas using high value treats....he just didn't care that much. Usually treats worked fine, but some situations such as when other dogs were around, they didn't work at all. Finally someone suggested I use a toy and it made an amazing difference.
Don't be afraid to try another trainer and find what works for you. Don't be afraid to experiment a bit-he is your dog, you know what he likes best of all so trust yourself in that way.
|08-20-2013 03:51 AM|
I 100% agree with Selzer, trust your gut. If something doesn't feel right shop and call around, ask your vets office if they have anyone they recommend, friends, ect. It took me months to decide on who I went to for our training, sometimes it's just gotta 'click' so to speak.
I'd make recall as exciting as possible, some of the dogs our group class have the same issue and imo she put it much better than I ever could have. "You have to be more exciting than the distractions. If they're not coming, you're not exciting enough".
I started V with someone holding him and me walking a couple feet away, walk away with treat/toy and act exciting. Make him think the sun shines out your bum! Jump up and down, be excited, show him what you have to give him when he does it. Have the person holding him run over to you and bring him if he doesn't come. When he starts to do that well, get a longer leash and do it with that and just keep increasing the distance. Play hide and seek games with him and have someone help him come find you. It should be fun for you to watch him learn, not frustrating. If you're getting frustrated, change your tactics and come at it a different way.
|08-20-2013 01:14 AM|
Trust your gut, if you feel you need to change trainers do so.
Personally, I would not pay someone to do that much training with a four month old puppy. There is only so much a pup that age can accomplish, and coming every day for 30 minutes seems like she could be fleecing you. JMO.
I think that you really need to consider your expectations for the puppy. 4 months is very young. I am not sure I would be working on anything in particular with such a youngster -- feeling that any 4 month old was having a problem with any specific thing. Kind of like doing remedial reading or math with a two year old. I think at four months, we go and we do various exercises, and the results of those exercises are just a bonus at that stage. Yes, puppies can learn stuff and do, but they may be awesome at SIT or LOOK or DOWN, and suck at STAY or HEEL or LEAVE IT.
|08-19-2013 03:11 PM|
|08-19-2013 02:25 PM|
Are you also working on the 'wait'? Pup on leash, in front of door, open door, hold pup back til the sit comes, click, treat. Then say 'lets go' (or what ever command your going to use). And out the door. Use this for in and out of the door, the dog doesnt know the difference. Also in and out of the car. Maybe using x-pens either in the house or outside so there is a barrier before going out side until the pup is trained.
And the potty training is just the process of learning. There will be times when your dog 'forgets' what it was taught. Its just part of the process.
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