|09-25-2013 06:48 PM|
|09-25-2013 06:20 PM|
|HeidiGS||Gorgeous, I have another new favorite GSD color, but I'd never find one!|
|09-25-2013 02:12 PM|
|Liesje||I had seen this dog many times in person, just assumed he was bi-color until the day I actually PET him, lol. Owner also sent me pics where she pushes the coat back....looks sable. Undercoat is all cream. But overall even to me in person his black areas have always looked black.|
|09-25-2013 01:58 PM|
wow - until you see the paws!!! REALLY REALLY dark sable! But the body does not have any tan/red!!! The two I saw barely had any tan on feet, I wish I could find that female....
|09-25-2013 01:34 PM|
What do you make of this dog? Lee?
3 months old (looks like he may have been shaved for a neuter?)
Now (I believe he is 5 or 6)
Owner says his undercoat is all cream colored. When you pet him backwards you can see the cream undercoat and guard hairs are two colors, but he usually looks bi-color or black and tan. Some times of the year he looks more sable when he's blowing coat.
Here you can see it
|09-25-2013 12:37 PM|
Here's Varick, a dark sable.
|09-25-2013 12:26 PM|
As was said - Sable is sable is sable....genetically they are all the same color.
Pigment is another gene. As has been said.
the term "black sable" "red sable" "mahogany sable" "gray sable" are all man made terms attempting to describe the differences in depth of pigment in the same genetic color....as such, definition is in the eye of the speaker.
There are many many many very attractive dark sables shown here....the photos of the one czech dog in Ohio, and video of Gordon was one of the few I thought was really a "black sable" and seeing him in person, he was not quite as black as in the video.....blowing coat, season of hte year....???
If there are black pups in a litter from two sable parents - YES, both parent carry black as their recessive gene. Happens all the time.
There are no dogs on this thread that I really consider black sable....I have seen two in my life, one a female imported from czech republic in a big BY breeding operation here locally, and a second who ended up in Mexico....the only way you could tell they were sable was to push back the hair to see the underside of the hair....if the dog has a lighter mantle, it is still a dark sable....the term BLACK SABLE has become such a PR thing to sell pups and everyone seems to want one.
|09-25-2013 11:50 AM|
|Liesje||I've only met one dog in person I'd call a black sable. As a puppy I thought this dog was a bi-color. But when you pet him backwards, sure enough, sable! Now as he ages there is more bleed through and it's more obvious, but he is still more black than any dog I've seen in this thread or posted here. I've asked his owner if I can share some photos. Unfortunately since he was a rescue we don't know the lineage. He was adopted from another state around 3 months old. I did the home visit on behalf of our local rescue and then once they got him they joined a training club where I used to train.|
|09-24-2013 11:09 PM|
|HeidiGS||I just traced him directly to the first GSD! Don't know why I'm so surprised lol.|
|09-24-2013 11:04 PM|
|HeidiGS||Here's a dog I know the owner of, have met, and actually really love whom I consider a true black sable from old czech lines: Sumo Von Der Dewhaus|
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