|08-25-2013 09:38 PM|
Thanks for all the input, can't believe it took me this long to get back.
As far as greeting, we don't. We let him out and put him outside for five minutes or so then let him back in the house and wait a few minutes until we notice him calm down.
Leaving him out of the crate is something we've tried again. It's hit and miss. Sometimes he destroys stuff (blankets/pillows/towels/couch cushion/ect) other times we come back to him laying at the door just waiting, nothing gone wrong.
|08-20-2013 07:04 PM|
Not going to be popular opinion, but have you tried NOT putting him in the crate when you leave?
My GSD did the same thing as you described, went as far as biting the lock off from inside the crate. I finally just gave in... he's perfectly behaved in the house when I'm gone, he lays on my bed and waits for me to come home. He's also the same as yours... fine in the car, but hates the crate (he loves it with the door off). There was less destruction once I quit crating him.
|08-20-2013 06:44 PM|
I have a similar issue, mine is 7mo but he's had separation anxiety since we brought him home and it's not gotten any better.
He's fine in the crate he doesn't sleep all night in upstairs (we have 2 because my mother is disabled and I'm not home during the day) unless I walk away, after 10-15 minutes of barking he gives up and settles down to play/sleep. If I get out of the car to pump gas he freaks out, digging up the seats/doors and trying to get at me. When he sees I'm getting back in he settles out. If someone holds his leash and I walk away he howls. He lets out this cry/scream like he's being beaten and chokes himself even on his prong.
I don't feed into it by coming back or paying attention while he's doing this, I keep walking/doing what I was doing and only come back when he's settled. But he's going to fail his CGC with this behavior!
|08-17-2013 07:47 AM|
How do you greet the pup.
I think if you develop a system where you walk in and the pup or dog is calm then you have a better chance to help with the separation anxiety.
I walk in, ignore the dogs and make a cup of tea or get a bite to eat. I will acknowledge the dogs after a few minutes. This tells them 'when this guy arrives we relax and wait for affection'. The dogs will be brushed off if jumping or excited.
The act of brushing the dogs off or pushing them and avoiding them jumping up is exciting in itself for a dog, so if the dogs are over excitable, I only open the door a small bit and allow the dog to get my scent and when they relax then I would enter.
At the beginning when you are trying to condition the dog to be relaxed when greeting you can open the door slightly and allow the pup to get your scent wait til it relaxes and then close the door and do it again and again until you see a relaxed dog or pup.
The aim is you walk in and walk out like that is normal and not a big deal for the pup or dog.
So you say after 10 minutes the dog gets separation anxiety. So calmly leave for 5 minutes over and over again until the dog is bored of you going in and out and accepts it as normal. Then you can build up the time. Don't speak to the dog during this or say you are leaving and miss it or whatever. The dog does not understand and is better left calm as you are more likely to come back and find him still in the calm mood.
I notice this with some dogs when I'm out in the country and i'm with a friend. If we decide to split up/separate the dogs get stressed and anxious. A way to counter this is by one person hiding and the other letting the dog go and find the person. You can turn it into a game of hide and seek. After a while the dog begins to take it as normal for you to separate and reunite. He also develops his confidence and knows he can find the person if he wants.
|08-17-2013 12:52 AM|
Gustav was like this for me when I adopted him. He did not want to be alone. I found that if you worked his mind and body to the point that he was exhausted, he would not mind being alone for some quality RandR. After a few weeks, he felt confident in his new cave and did not mind guarding the house when I was gone.
I miss that fur ball.
|08-12-2013 09:57 AM|
|pyratemom||Part of the changing the leaving routine is to do all that and put him the crate then don't leave. Then in a few minutes or so after he calms down come back and let him out. Gradually increase the amount of time you leave him in there. If he doesn't like the kong maybe a chew stick. You might also try some of the pheremone sprays I've heard people mention. Mostly I've heard cat people mention it but it should work for dogs too. Mostly once you put him in the crate, quietly just leave the room then. Don't talk to him if you don't normally. Then come back and let him out when he settles. Do you leave a radio or tv on for background sound? That also helps.|
|08-11-2013 09:53 PM|
We've tried the kongs a few times but once he's in the crate and the door's closed he wont touch it, doesn't matter if we're standing right there or if we've left for the time.
Great advice about changing the routine something we've heard a before. I tried it a few times, got all ready to leave then just spent fifteen minutes folding the laundry. He walked in the crate by himself, i closed the door and folded then just left. I came back twenty minutes later and there was his normal mess of spit n pee. When we do leave we usually don't talk to him, but if we decide to it's always something simple, most of the time just a "see you soon". Doesn't seem to make a difference.
We're starting right now with putting him in the crate everytime we go to the bathroom. Toss him in, go, let him out so it's a very short time. When we first started he was crazy, then got better, now he's crazy again and it's only been two days.
|08-10-2013 11:19 AM|
|pyratemom||I don't have a lot of experience with separation anxiety but I know there are people here that will give you good advice. As far the pup not wanting to go in his crate when you leave. Do you always follow the same sequence for leaving - you know, bathroom break, find keys, purse, shoes, etc before leaving. If so change up your leaving routine. Try picking up the keys and putting them down in another spot. Move your purse from one spot to another then just sit down or pick up a magazine to read. Go to the bathroom and come back out and go do something in another room. Anything to change the leaving routine. If you always use the same routine the pup can sense what is about to happen and begins to get anxious seeing the leaving routine. If you change up the routine it helps. Also put him in the crate like you would if you were going to leave, then don't leave, then when he settles let him back out. Change things up often. Put a frozen kong in the crate before you leave to keep him busy too. Oft times they fall asleep licking the kong and sleep peacefully while you are gone. I also put the music channel on the TV (not MTV of course) to avoid distractions from outside. One more thing, when you do leave if you just say "Watch the house" and go it's better than saying "Good bye baby, I'll be back, don't worry, etc. One quick sentence Watch the house, then go.|
|08-10-2013 03:29 AM|
How to handle separation anxiety
We've had our pup for two months now, he's 6mo as of last week, and I think he's developed separation anxiety. My husband and I seem to be a loss of how to deal with this.
If we disappear for more then 10 minutes he'll start whining and barking while searching frantically for us. If he can't find us it usually results in tearing something up. It's at the point now when I take my shower I leave the door propped open so when he starts all I need to do is say something and he'll calm down. He usually sits at the door for two or three minutes then runs off to find a toy of his to play with.
This is just while we're home and out of sight.
If we leave we crate him. We keep his crate in the bedroom and he really does love it. He'll sleep in it at night, we don't close the door it's of his own will, if we're in the bedroom folding laundry he'll go into it when we ask without a fight, even after walks he's started a routine to take a twenty minute power nap in there when we get back.
But if he knows we're leaving it's a fight to get him in there, usually taking fifteen minutes to bribe him or my husband will drag him in (which is an endless argument between us on how we should go about it.)
Once in the crate it's whining and barking, when we come home there's a mess of spit and small amounts of pee right at the door. But he's never actually gone to the bathroom in his crate. He's figured out how to undo the locks, and worse off has injured himself during his breakouts. The vet said they were just small cuts that would heal within a week or so. We're now putting actual key locks on the crate to insure he stays in.
We even tried getting a sitter, someone he already knows but she told us fifteen minutes after we're gone its the whining and barking. Said he lays at the door waiting and whining after twenty minutes of running around. Won't go out, eat, drink, or play with her once he'd figured out we're gone.
We work opposite shifts so there's almost always someone home, if he's crated it'd never been more then two hours so we can go out to dinner or shopping. I've tried taking him with me if it's a quick run to the store and he'd great in a car. He climbs into the front passenger seat and just sits there waiting, quietly. No pee or spit, no whining or barking, just waits. I don't understand the difference between the car and crate.
Any advice is welcome, i'm just scared he might really hurt himself the next time we need to crate him and leave.