|08-11-2013 02:20 PM|
Just as an example, with my Beagle mix, if she isn't paying attention, doing what I've told her, then all fun and games shut down and we go inside and she gets ignored. For her, that's a horrible correction, and it's worked very well.
Another example is that my dogs are not allowed to dash out the door when it's time to go out. They must Sit, and Wait for me to give them the go forth command. If they don't listen and Sit, then they don't go out. Every dog that comes to my house for any length of time learns this one really quickly. The only correction involved is if they start to go out before I've said they can, the door gets closed.
I think that with +R the biggest thing is to train, train, train, and then train some more, so that the dog is SO into following the commands that it's automatic.
|08-10-2013 06:06 PM|
|BowWowMeow||I trained three dogs with primarily +R. It works well for a lot of dogs and people. It's especially good for dogs who are super sensitive or fearful or have a lot of baggage. The key is usually motivation, trust and later a very strong bond.|
|08-10-2013 03:39 PM|
I agree with everything except the positive only training school of thought. If your dog doesnt need corrections, GREAT. However I believe almost every dog will need corrections during proofing to become reliable. What happens when your dog knows how to sit for example, you tell him to sit but he just stands there looking at you? Are you just going to wait? Show him that ignoring you gives him no negative consequences?
The best advice my trainer gave me is this - you will NEVER be more important than every surrounding your dog is in. If the rabbit across the street looks better than the treat in your hand and you dont have a proofed recall, it could prove dangerous.
Do what works best for your dog but dont close your mind off to training methods.
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|08-10-2013 03:30 PM|
It's done now but for the future please know that it's dangerous to give vaccines when your dog is sick--especially giving bordatella when he's already got a URI! Surprising that the vet would agree to that.
For the record, I have never given a bordatella vaccine (in 26 years of dog ownership) and none of my dogs have ever contracted kennel cough, even when a foster came to me with it.
|08-10-2013 01:24 PM|
I agree about the 'alpha' being unsupported. It was originally based on a flawed study of captive wolves and took off from there, completely outdated. Recent studies of stray/feral dogs show that they form rather loose bonds, nota pack per se, and split apart easily. They don't have the complex social structure of wolves; moreover, wolf packs are usually inter-related, and need structure to avoid conflict as much as possible.
I'm not an 'alpha' leader, more the 'resource queen'. My dog does exactly what I want him to do and I've trained him using nothing but pretty positive reinforcement, even on the days ( oh 6 months- 10 months, those 'days' ) when he could really push my buttons. I don't use a pinch or a prong collar; don't like them, never will.
I found patience was the key to everything, patience, consistence and timing. Oh and trust. This dog trusts me not to hurt him, or let harm come to him. He looks to me to see how to react and if I'm not bothered by something he pretty much feels the same way. I'm not saying he's bomb proof, he's still young ( 17 months), but from observing him around strange dogs and strange people almost daily, I'd put a lot of stock in him these days. He's also intact, something I am increasingly coming to think is more of a help than a hindrance to the maturing dog's personality.
Regarding distractions, mine is not distracted by food, but by a much chewed squeaky toy that I ONLY allow him to access when we're training, making it very high value to him. Once that stupid squeaky comes out, **** hounds could charge past and he wouldn't notice. It was hugely useful when training him to reconsider the importance of other dogs. Maybe your dog has something he really loves and that might help?
Best of luck!
|08-08-2013 05:42 PM|
|NTexFoster||@1sttimeforgsd - oddly enough Kaiser's first dad contacted me on facebook. You raise a good point though. I have a laundry list of questions for him and the food guarding is on it.|
|08-08-2013 05:14 PM|
my pup hates it lol but too bad!
|08-08-2013 04:54 PM|
|1sttimeforgsd||You mentioned that he is a rescue, maybe he previously had to fight for his food to get any. He may grow out of this habit with time knowing that no one is going to be interfering with his meal. As for the other questions maybe someone else can comment for you. Thank you for giving Keiser a forever and loving home.|
|08-08-2013 03:57 PM|
Vet meet & greet for Keiser - so much to learn
I took Keiser to visit our vet, hand over his records and get his bordetella vaccine (the rescue missed it). The vet liked everything she saw including the rear dew claws.
She did however recommend cutting him down from 3cups twice a day to 2 cups twice a day now that his boy bits have been adjusted.
The we got in to the behavior stuff:
First I've noticed he does guard his food. Not badly but I don't want him to growl at anybody b/c we get to close while he is eating. He also gets really excited when I get the leash and likes to bite at it. Finally, he doesn't really pay attention when there are distractions.
I've already signed up for a basic obedience class w/ PetSmart. My expectations are low, but if we can get sit and stay working with distractions I'll be satisfied.
Our vet doesn't like PetSmart and provided a list of local trainers she does like. I'll be checking them out tomorrow. From here things got interesting.
I have a pinch collar that appears to work. She does not like them. I don't either, but it appears to work. However, I'm willing to try something different. Today we walked using his harness instead and things were not really any different than with the pinch collar. He likes to stop and look back at where we came from and then look at me like 'I think we left the stove on so we should go back now'.
We'll see what comes up with the trainers we work with.
Next is this Dr. Sophia Yin. Our vet provided me with a ton of stuff and it all looks pretty good. One item basically says the whole Alpha dominance thing isn't supported by the science. And the overall message of everything is to use only positive reinforcement for training. I'm cool with that, but I'm curious to know other people's perspectives.
One of the cooler things in this was to stop feeding with a bowl. They recommend using puzzle feeders or feeding from the hand instead. If I understand correctly the hand feeding is done throughout the day whenever Kaiser does something I want to reinforce. Small problem: 2 boxers and 1 foster in the house too. I have not figured this out entirely.
I looked on amazon at some of the puzzle feeders. They look like fun. I fed Kaiser using a kong toy today (just a treat) and he seemed to have fun.
Anyway, so much stuff to learn.