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01-25-2013 02:29 AM
CeCe In my town a lady who ran a boxer rescue got reported to AC. It made the local news and everyone who knew her said that she was a very dedicated rescuer who just couldn't say no and that shelters were always calling her when a boxer came in even though they knew she was overwhelmed. It was a sad story.
I would suggest that you hep her look for volunteers who can help her out. But if that's doesn't work you may have to report her for the sake of the dogs.
01-24-2013 11:18 PM
Zeeva I sort of created a new post from your thread. I may know how your friend feels: anxiety, overwhelmed, need to help her whether by getting the authorities involved or confronting her...I feel you may be doing everyone in the situation. A favor...
01-24-2013 10:25 PM
Gharrissc It sounds like she is overwhelmed. Even though her friends offered to help her, it's not their responsibility to help her keep the house clean. If she can't keep up with the day to day care of the dogs,then she either needs to surrender them to a shelter or network with another rescue.
01-24-2013 08:11 PM
Liesje I would report it, contact a few other rescues for help, maybe even contact the media (once it has been reported). We had a puppy mill seizure in the county south of us and 300 some dogs were adopted within weeks because of the media/Facebook coverage.

As for some dogs going to the shelter....this may sound harsh but if I had to choose between euthanizing my dog and having to confine him to a wire crate at all times except potty, I'd probably push the needle myself.
01-24-2013 06:30 PM
RowdyDogs I'm sure you've already thought of this, but are you able to talk to the husband at all? If he honestly doesn't know what his wife's day-to-day life is like when he's deployed, he probably deserves to know and may be in a very good position to help her. It really sounds like she may need some psychological help or support.

If the breed is difficult to rehome in your area, that may be another reason for you to talk to rescues about the situation, especially if there's another breed rescue relatively close (even a state over or something). Often they'll have networks and contacts all over the country, and may be able to assist in moving the dogs to homes in an area where they're more popular.

It's really nice to see someone trying to be such a good friend. I've been in similar shoes to yours, in my case it was a dear friend who had always done well for her animals but whose life kind of fell apart after her divorce, so I know how hard it is to navigate a situation like that. She's lucky to have you in her life, however this turns out.
01-24-2013 05:13 PM
onedogman Sounds nuts to me. Her house must stink like crazy! I think you have to report her. Try talking to her first, but be totally honest. If she can't see that she's not up to the tasks involved you just have to give it to her straight and say, "I'm really sorry but I have a responsibility to report this. I know this would be very hard, but somebody has to do the right thing here.
01-24-2013 05:13 PM
seraphim Rowdydogs: excellent idea. Thank you ALL for the great advice. I will take every suggestion!
01-24-2013 05:08 PM
seraphim The rescue was started 3 years ago, before my friends husband was deployed overseas.

Before he comes home on leave, she has other people clean the patio, house and basement so that she "doesn't worry him" and he doesn't think "she can't do it herself". She recently attacked all her friends on facebook for not helping her clean ( 2 days before he came home) because they promised "If you need anything, just call me" when he got deployed.

In the past 6 months, only one dog found a home, and she was there only a short time to whelp. My friend is in the process of selling her pups now. This breed is ill suited for this hot humid climate, and are energetic and intelligent. They are hard to place here because of that, and because they are older dogs. None of the other rescues have room.
01-24-2013 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by seraphim View Post
I'm not sure what's worse: them going back to the shelter, where they will be euthanized if not adopted immediately, or the life they are living now.
From what you describe, I think the shelter would be a better option. The poor things don't sound like they're getting any of their needs met, except maybe enough food and water--no exercise, not much attention, unsanitary conditions, etc. Euthanasia of a healthy dog is a painful topic, but it sounds like those dogs are living in really unhappy circumstances right now and at least they'd have a chance at the shelter...and if they are euthanised, at least they're not suffering anymore.

At least in the two states I've been involved with rescue in, it's also really unlikely that animal control will just seize the dogs and take them to the pound. Most likely, they'll do a welfare check and work with her to develop a plan to improve conditions and/or reduce the number of dogs she has in her home. They'll give her time to come into compliance, and only if she is unable or unwilling to improve conditions for her dogs will they seize them.

If there are non-governmental dog rescues in your area that have a good reputation, you might want to contact them first and ask their advice. They can't do much unless she wants their help, but they could perhaps advise you on how best to talk to animal control. They also might be able to help rehome the dogs if a seizure does happen. No guarantees, but it can't hurt and will probably help you feel better to know you exhausted all options before calling the authorities.

I know it is difficult when it is a friend, but I do think you need to report her, even if it ends the friendship. I wouldn't say anything to her about it--she may not actually know it is you. (just a note, if you hadn't tried to talk to her and help her yourself, I'd advise that first, but it sounds like she isn't receptive to that.) If she does confront you, explain to her that you were concerned for both her and her dogs, and you want to help her. She may or may not take it well, but that's on her.

I would almost bet money that this isn't just a bad situation for the dogs, by the way. She sounds like she may be in the earlier stages of animal hoarding--technically she probably already meets the definition as she has more than she can care for and she's not willing to acknowledge the bad conditions or find them new homes. The condition of her home and her animals may be a cry for help in a way. It's also very unhealthy for her to be living around that much animal waste, and may be exacerbating health issues in her. Getting her help by reporting her is something that will help improve her quality of life as well, or at least give her the chance to do so.

I'm sorry you're in this tough situation, and I'm sorry for your friend. I hope things work out okay for everyone involved, but I think the only way for that to happen is to bring in the authorities.
01-24-2013 04:45 PM
N Smith Honestly - let her know exactly what you said here.

If it was short term emergency care, then it would be "ok" (not really but better than being shot or whatever), but as a long term care facility she is doing more harm than good.

Maybe try to help her get in touch with a few rescues who can take dogs on a more long term basis, and place as many as possible.

Then offer to help her put in place a plan that would be more feasible for her as a rescue. Perhaps she only takes on 1-3 dogs and only on an emergency basis to be held for a few days until a space opens up in rescue. Maybe if you give her a plan and help her out of the mess she is in, she will accept the help.

IF she fights you on this, and decides her way is better - then, IMO, you have every right to report - let her know this. Either she works with you and XXX Rescue to get her place in shape, or you will have to intervene, for her sake and the dogs.
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