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01-15-2013 02:37 PM
qbchottu I am asking on a purely percentage wise aspect - not counting exceptional coats - how many of the breeders that you would seriously consider getting your next puppy out many of those breeders would regularly use and breed coats? I think you know my point and it's rhetorical....I also insinuate this because of OP's obvious apprehension about revealing any details regarding the breeding.
01-15-2013 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by qbchottu View Post
Yes you can show them now in SV. Of course they can still work and compete. However, how many breeders that you would buy from would breed long coats?
That breed for longcoats, or that breed longcoats? IMO, there is a difference. LC's were accepted (KKL2) until 1992 I think. Then "banned" now back as a variety in Germany (I think variety would be the correct term, not sure). I have no problem with LCs. The sire to my puppy is a Sch3 son of Tom van't Leefdalhof.... and a coat.
01-15-2013 02:19 PM
qbchottu Yes you can show them now in SV. Of course they can still work and compete. However, how many breeders that you would buy from would breed long coats?
01-15-2013 02:11 PM
gagsd OP, are those pictures of the sire and dam?
If so I would "guess top pic is WGSL and the lower is American. Purely a guess though.
There are now recognized SV style LC classes, and I was told the GSDCA Nationals had LC classes as well.
01-15-2013 01:52 PM
NancyJ I am not sure what the point of the thread is? A silly guessing game?

Double sired would mean two studs got to the female. You can do DNA but somehow I don't think it would be on file on this litter. He does not look sable from the photograph but ruffle your hands through his coat in the black part. Are the guard hairs banded or solid in color? I have a patterned sable and in the right light he looks like a B/T
01-15-2013 01:50 PM
qbchottu The breeder and her dogs should be able to stand for themselves - not sure why they need a customer defending them. I don't think anyone here is excessively harsh - there are preferences as far as lines go, but most will ok a breeder that has a focused breeding program, does health certs, and works/shows their dogs in some manner. Why should your feelings be hurt if your potential breeder is vetted? You want answers to questions that we can only take guesses at because you don't want to provide more information on the breeding in public. Maybe you would feel more comfortable PMing people for info....or you could provide the info and let people take a comprehensive look at it.
01-15-2013 01:44 PM
sjackson310 Okay, I found one pic of the sire, but you can't see much of his red at all in this particular picture because the sun washed most of it out. In his other pictures, you can see it better. He has red and cream in different areas of his fur/body. I edited the background of the picture because the breeder was in it. This one is a candid picture as well, not stacked.

What does double sired mean, btw? He is not a sable, correct? Cause to me, he doesn't look like one.
01-15-2013 01:30 PM
sjackson310 Well, to me the sire looks like a blanket more than anything, however, lately I've seen some GSD that I woulda bet my life to be black/tans and were actually considered sables. Maybe he is sable? I have a candid picture of the dam that I had saved, but the breeder took down the page since all the puppies are spoken for. I think I have a picture of the sire as well but I will have to check some folders.

I have a phobia of sorts about talking about the breeder. I have been ripped apart by a "friend" in the past (maybe because she was mad I wasn't choosing her puppies) and I have seen it happen to many people here. I feel extremely uncomfortable talking about breeders now unfortunately
01-15-2013 12:51 PM
Capone22 Maybe one parent is patterned sable.
I'm guess a show line/ working line cross.

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01-15-2013 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by sjackson310 View Post
Hmm okay. I kinda assumed it'd be a mix of sorts. I was surprised to see so many sables in the litter with two red & black parents. The dad is a LC and the mom is a plush coat i believe?
If neither of the parents is sable, it's impossible for the puppies to be sable.

Why don't you post the pedigree and tell us who the breeder is, instead of dancing all around it? It makes a difference to know who is doing the breeding; if it's someone reputable, you'd have to figure they have a purpose and a goal. Are you sure all 9 pups are longcoats? They might just be really furry stock coats.
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