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01-15-2013 05:53 PM
Mc2 I've tried every option but surgery and right now walking in any position other than jumped over I feel like my back is going to snap. I'm always irritable and hurting so bad I can't work and this is no way to live. My dr has had a lot if success with this exact surgery and I plan to do exactly as he says.

My hubby is a firefighter so he works a 24hr shift and we live in a neighborhood out by the lake far from all of our friends and family. Thankfully, we don't get snow here yesterday it was 81. We live in SC. I'm thinking that fencing idea may be best.
01-15-2013 04:50 PM
Cheyanna I have spondyolisthysis (sp?) of the spine. I would like to suggest that you very carefully consider ... No surgery. I have not met one person for whom the surgery actually worked. I had one friend who had the surgery and then two weeks in to PT did something and was flat on his back for 10 months. I know the pain seems unbearable, but can you imagine worse? Another friend had 5 surgeries and it did not helped. What helped was a breast reduction and she was only a c cup. She is petite tho.

As to the dog, because of my disability we trained Fiona to be able to go potty on the patio. Can you use pee pee pads on the floor of a room with tile? We tried to train her to go indoors, but she wanted out and does not mind cement.

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01-15-2013 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Mc2 View Post
That's some great ideas!! When my hubby gets home hopefully we come up with something.

I am having spinal fusion of L4-L5 with hardware. My L4 is totally degenerated and I have a bad tear too. I'm only 30 and praying for a full quick recovery. The pain is unbearable.
Yikes, I hope you have a great recovery! I broke a few vertebrae some years ago and I know how painful spinal stuff is...seems like you can't do anything with tweaking it or causing pain! My best wishes are with you.

I also wanted to add, if you do go with the option I suggested of training her to climb on a platform, be sure you place it at the edge of where she can reach with the tether. I was talking about it with my boyfriend and he pointed out that you don't want her to be able to get tangled in anything, with you unable to free her until your husband comes home.

I also wanted to add with the electric stock fence, they can be a PITA to maintain and need to be tested and checked regularly. If your husband is able to do that on his days off then great, but a wire mesh fence will probably require much less maintenance for a guy who I'm guessing is already going to be doing the majority of household chores while you recover. If you guys get a lot of snow, that may also make it difficult to place the lowest strand close enough to the ground to keep your dog in without running the risk of shorting the fence (the snow itself shouldn't short the fence, in theory anyway, but IME with electric fences in northern CO, it either winds up pressing the tape against a post or something else to short it out, or otherwise messing it up).
01-15-2013 02:58 PM
jang I had a fusion in 1971 with no hardware--used my own hip bone for the hospital bed and not allowed to MOVE for 10 days..then a steel brace for 1 year..No PT back then so recovery was a crap shoot..but still hanging in there all these years later..Best of luck to you..I have nothing of use to recommend for the dog, though...sorry
01-15-2013 02:58 PM
MichaelE I'll be using the T-post and field fencing too. I just can't afford to fence a 400' perimeter with all the gates and hardware and such with cyclone fencing at this time.

It's more or less just to keep her in the yard while my back is turned while we're outside. It's not to dump her in the backyard while I go and do something else without her.
01-15-2013 02:51 PM
Mc2 That's some great ideas!! When my hubby gets home hopefully we come up with something.

I am having spinal fusion of L4-L5 with hardware. My L4 is totally degenerated and I have a bad tear too. I'm only 30 and praying for a full quick recovery. The pain is unbearable.
01-15-2013 09:32 AM
DollBaby I agree with the OP on T posts and a roll of field fence. IF you do go electric stock fence, run enough strands that your pup can't crawl under or go over without touching it.. 4 or 5. That many keeps the coyotes and strays etc out of pastures and has kept my dogs in
01-15-2013 12:43 AM
Jag Are you having the fusion that includes hardware? What part of your spine is being operated on? I had a fusion done in 2007 with hardware. I had braces for stabilization, and learned how to move by squatting instead of bending. This may be something you want to work on now. Physical therapy is going to be the 'make it or break it' part of your recovery. I have to warn you, though, that mine failed. Which means that I have been in more pain than before the surgery. Lots of other options have come up since I had surgery. Please explore them. Look on the internet and see the 'real life' stories of those who have already had those surgeries. As far as your dogs go, I don't think the tie outs will be a major issue. Just bend at the knees. Install hooks if needed to put the tie outs in an easy to reach place. Physical therapy won't give you any time to rest, trust me. You'll be walking less than 24 hours after surgery.
01-14-2013 06:47 PM
JeanKBBMMMAAN Here's a picture of part of mine (and my conjoined dogs ):

It really was inexpensive for the large area I did. I got the green kind - it's 5 feet high, with the posts 7 and 6.
01-14-2013 06:43 PM
RowdyDogs If by electric fence you mean one of those underground fences, I wouldn't recommend it. For one thing, they're more expensive than the livestock fencing JeanK mentions (T-posts and wire mesh fencing is about the cheapest fence you can get, at least around here, and it's easy to install yourself as well as being easy to remove should you want to install a nicer fence). They're also unreliable. Your dog may learn to stay away for the most part, but if something really triggers her prey drive or something, she may be over the boundary before she even registers the shock. I used to work in some neighborhoods where most fences were against the HOA (trying to preserve a natural mountainous look I guess) and I can't tell you how many dogs I saw on the street wearing Invisible Fence collars. And the worst part is then they can't even get back into their yards, because the stimulus that excited them enough to forget their boundary is gone and when they try to cross back over, they get shocked. Plus, it doesn't protect against other dogs, people or natural predators that might pose a threat to your dog. IMO fences are as much to keep trouble out as they are to keep your dog in.

Even if you're talking about a tape fence like are used for livestock, I'd recommend against it. They're cheaper than even a wire mesh livestock fence, but they won't keep dogs in or out. We used them for livestock and my dogs crossed over them easily, simply learning quickly not to touch the wire/tape but still sliding through it or jumping over it.

My best recommendation would be pricing fencing supplies at your local farm and ranch supply store. Tractor Supply Company is a decent chain store; otherwise, just look in the phone book under "livestock-feed and supply" or search online for "[your city] livestock supply." T-posts are a couple of bucks each; wire mesh fencing depends on what you want, but since you're buying for a dog rather than horses you can go for pretty cheap stuff (the more expensive stuff tends to be coated or otherwise safety-treated since horses are great at injuring themselves on fencing); and then you just need a T-post driver and some wire (either stuff you clip yourself and tie, or hangers) to attach the fence to the post. It's really easy and inexpensive as far as fences go, and since as I said it's also easy to remove (if a bit of work to dig out the T posts), you can even fence off a small area just to let her out in while you're down. Around here it would be very easy to make a decent-sized run for a dog with livestock fence for $100 or so, less than $100 if you've got the T-post driver or a sledgehammer you can use already.

If a fence isn't an option at all, I'd work on training her to climb on a platform outside. If you can hang the tie-out on a hook or something that you can reach, and train the pup to climb on a platform you can also reach, you might still be able to make the tie-out work.

I hope you have a speedy recovery!
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