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|01-18-2013 03:02 PM|
I think there should be a goal in mind. Sorry folks, that I've derailed this thread somewhat, and this is my last post here, because I think I've said what I wanted to say.
But I think if you're breeding a working line dog (and I've been using Schutz. as an example because that is the direction it seemed to have taken as far as the "value" of the dog decreasing if it's altered)
If you're breeding a working line dog, I still think you have goals in mind. Sound of body and mind. The dogs should be biddable etc.
Of course some dogs in the litter will be harder and some will be softer, but none should be quitters, weak nerved, nervous etc.
This is all I mean by breeding the best to the best. And showline people probably hate the WL conformation and vice versa. So to a certain degree, the dogs are already split into different "discliplines" where people are looking for different qualities in the animals they breed.
A person who wants a couch potato, would not want a GSD. That would not be a good trait in working lines. That is the type of thing I'm talking about.
I'm sorry I'm using horses as my examples, because that is what I know best, but I think we can all agree tat if you take lesser quality, ill tempered animals and breed them, the odds are not in our favour to get the next world champion.
So if you own one of those, even if you love them more than life, I think you're doing the breed a favour by removing them from there gene pool, because they are not good examples of the breed.
|01-18-2013 02:55 PM|
Originally Posted by martemchik View Post
|01-18-2013 02:47 PM|
^I have learned this from a super long thread when ASL and anything that doesn't resemble a working line was attacked to be a subpar dog and should never be bred just because the market calls for "family friendly" GSDs that don't need to be worked on a daily basis.
|01-18-2013 02:39 PM|
[QUOTE=blackshep;2765233]Nope. lets face it. No matter what you're breeding there's a lot of luck too. But you set yourself up for success, as best you can. If you're into schutzhund, you're not really breeding for the pet market. Most of those dogs are too much dog for the average person.
Your quote above would be a great topic for another thread. Since Schutzhund folks are miniscule compared to the pet population how many breeders could survive if only a select few could handle their sport dogs?
|01-18-2013 02:31 PM|
Nope. lets face it. No matter what you're breeding there's a lot of luck too. But you set yourself up for success, as best you can. If you're into schutzhund, you're not really breeding for the pet market. Most of those dogs are too much dog for the average person.
I'm just saying, if I had an animal who was weak nerved, bad tempered, unsound etc etc, I would not be breeding it just because it had balls.
ETA: the problem with racehorses is that they don't have the same breed inspections, as say the warmbloods and the results speak for themselves.
|01-18-2013 02:25 PM|
You have to consider the pluses and minuses of each individual animal along with their background for generations. It's beyond me but that is the way I understand it. Wish it were simpler. My $0.02.
I'm with Cassidy's Mom on the value issue and where I would want my dogs to go. Loving, caring home. No money involved.
|01-18-2013 02:24 PM|
|Liesje||I've been on a horse once in my life so I have trouble evaluating dogs or accepting that a dog's breed-worthiness is called into question based on the horse world...|
|01-18-2013 02:20 PM|
Originally Posted by Liesje View Post
|01-18-2013 02:11 PM|
|01-18-2013 02:07 PM|
I know of a woman in the next town over, breeding horses up the ying yang just because she can. Minis, etc. they are all bred/overbred.
Sadly they end up at auctions and being sold by the pound for meat.
The horse overpopulation situation is humongous because everyone can and does breed them just because they can.
And there's even fewer good homes for them and with the cost of hay, many people drive them to the mountains and turn them loose.
It's horrendous, just as much or moreso than dog/cat overpopulation.
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