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01-13-2013 11:14 PM
MissLilyBean I'll keep that list in mind 3 Toes. It looks like a good starting point!


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01-13-2013 11:13 PM
MissLilyBean
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Oh heck, if we're dreaming anyway, lets add bison and wild turkey.
I was thinking the same thing. LOL!




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01-13-2013 06:33 PM
Andrew Robert Yeah it's and oldie but seems like a fair place to get a baseline. Hopefully the ingredients haven't changed too much over the last few years. I agree about them breaking out the ingredients and giving reasons why or why not to use.

I still have a month and half before the new puppy comes home but I'd like to feed kibble in the am and raw in the pm.

My breeder has been feeding the last few litters 50/50 of TOTW and NV Instinct.

I'm going to see if I can calculate the ingredients from the OP and see what I come up with. Wish me luck.. I've never been that good with math. : )
01-13-2013 05:41 PM
3ToesTonyismydog There are quite a few great dog foods out there and many good ones. I am not a fan of BB because I keep hearing of a lot of dogs having issues with it. Here a couple list's I made up, but there are more good ones out there

Orijen, Acana, Horizon Legacy, Fromm, Merrick, Go Endurance, Precise Holistic, Wellness Core, Castor and Pollux Natural, Eathborn Holistic, Evo, Go Fit and Free, Instinct, Pinnacle Peak, Solid Gold, Canidea, Darford Zero/G, Now Grain Free.


Pulsar, Blue Wilderness, Artemis, First Mate. Natures Logic, Nutrisourse, Exclusive, Pure Vita, Wellness, Earthborn, Annamaet, Organix, Whole Earth Farms, Premium Edge, By Nature grain free, Victor, TOTW
01-12-2013 10:52 PM
selzer If I won the lotto, what would I feed my dogs?

I would probably buy enough land to hunt regular for the dogs and perhaps raise meet as well. I would feed them venison, rabbit, some beef (retired dairy cows), chicken, and sheep (probably not lamb, just because you can get more meat out of an adult, goat, and probably fish as well.

Oh heck, if we're dreaming anyway, lets add bison and wild turkey.

Years ago everyone fed Dog Food. There was no puppy food or senior food. Purina was the big name, and I think that horse meat and corn were probably the main ingredients. Dogs did good on it. And they lived a long time.

Nowadays we feed five and six star dog foods and dogs are dying of cancer left and right.

I have fed the 5 star food and have had troubles with it. Now I feed a mid-range food and my measure is being able to feed all of them the same thing.
01-12-2013 07:38 PM
MissLilyBean
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Andrew Robert, the problem with that site is many products have not been updated in years. I do like the way they point out the different ingredients and give their reasoning.

A question for all and a good poll question.. IF YOU WON THE LOTTO WHAT WOULD YOU FEED YOUR DOG/DOGS ??? A T-Bone every night for Tony, LOL. I wold still feed a certain amount of Orijen. But then again Tony is part piglet.
I never realized there were SO many foods to choose from. I've been considering switching Sweet Pea to BB and a all raw meal one or two times a week. I keep hearing about Orijen but there's nowhere nearby that carries it.


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01-12-2013 07:25 PM
3ToesTonyismydog Andrew Robert, the problem with that site is many products have not been updated in years. I do like the way they point out the different ingredients and give their reasoning.

A question for all and a good poll question.. IF YOU WON THE LOTTO WHAT WOULD YOU FEED YOUR DOG/DOGS ??? A T-Bone every night for Tony, LOL. I wold still feed a certain amount of Orijen. But then again Tony is part piglet.
01-12-2013 02:18 PM
Andrew Robert not sure about the grading but this might be a helpful link.

Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble
01-12-2013 01:57 PM
MissLilyBean
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I know hardly any "experts" on dog feeds who make their proclamations who actually have any kind of background or training in nutrition and who have even a rudimentary understanding of biochemistry. It is fine when they struggle along with the rest of us and learn and share what they can do not assume they have some special knowledge.
Yeah. In my research, I've seen a lot of "experts" that base their experience on a handful of dogs. Of course, every dog is an individual and you'd be hard-pressed to find a blanket food that fits all dogs in general. I've tried to limit my research to nutritionists and veterinarians. I'm even considering contacting the Mississippi State Vet school to see about a consultation. I've heard some vet school students will do it for a nominal fee with the guidance of a well-versed instructor.



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01-08-2013 09:05 AM
jocoyn I think you also need to educate yourself on the ingredients and avoid those you find as questionable based on your research. I discounted canola oil after much research, but many people would consider it to be a superior vegetable oil. I have a dog who cannot tolerate flax. I don't have an issue with corn other than the fact that it is most assuredly GMO corn which has been sprayed extensively with herbicides. GMO corn is so prevalent that even organic corn is contaminated. I have an issue with GMO anything--though it is very hard to find chickens fed a GMO free diet, even if you can find antibiotic free (all poultry is hormone free)..it is possible to find feeds with grass fed livestock and venison.

Any kibble is going to have some form of carbohydrates added. some grains with gluten can induce allergy issues. Other grains less so. potatoes are high glycemic (for people, there is no glycemic index defined for dogs and they do digest differently with no salivary amylases and no chewing)..peas and beans are low glycemic but have the potential to bring other problems. The carbs are there so they can make pellets.

I know hardly any "experts" on dog feeds who make their proclamations who actually have any kind of background or training in nutrition and who have even a rudimentary understanding of biochemistry. It is fine when they struggle along with the rest of us and learn and share what they can do not assume they have some special knowledge.
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