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01-06-2013 03:50 PM
selzer
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Originally Posted by msvette2u View Post
Strongid (pyrantel) covers everything, correct? "Broad spectrum"? Except Tapes which is why you have "strongid - t" which is strongid + praziquantel?
I think mine is Strongid T and it has a different dosing than Strongid.
01-06-2013 02:40 AM
doggiedad i think the OP should change their user name. i don't think it's
appropriate for this type of forum. OP, take the pup to the Vet.
01-06-2013 12:11 AM
msvette2u
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Originally Posted by wolfstraum View Post
there are only 2 types of worms visible to the eye....

roundworms - long thin spaggetti type worms - most common and what the OP saw and described

Tapes - look like rice grains - often seen on the dog's rear quarters...occasionally will be thrown up...they are wider and sort of a zipper like appearance

Hooks and whips are only seen under a scope...not as common in a puppy....yes, they CAN have them - but most pups have rounds....they can have the others, but not commonly while most do have rounds

Worked in vet clinics - small animal and equine on and off most of my life, spent 4 years at Penn Vet putting ex through.....

Strongid is very very safe wormer - often it is given in double and even triple doses for heavy worm load.....unless they have some different brand that has a different concentrate - normally it is 1 cc per 10 pounds....

Pup should definitely go to vet for check up and to get started on vaccinations

Lee
Strongid (pyrantel) covers everything, correct? "Broad spectrum"? Except Tapes which is why you have "strongid - t" which is strongid + praziquantel?
01-05-2013 09:08 PM
wolfstraum there are only 2 types of worms visible to the eye....

roundworms - long thin spaggetti type worms - most common and what the OP saw and described

Tapes - look like rice grains - often seen on the dog's rear quarters...occasionally will be thrown up...they are wider and sort of a zipper like appearance

Hooks and whips are only seen under a scope...not as common in a puppy....yes, they CAN have them - but most pups have rounds....they can have the others, but not commonly while most do have rounds

Worked in vet clinics - small animal and equine on and off most of my life, spent 4 years at Penn Vet putting ex through.....

Strongid is very very safe wormer - often it is given in double and even triple doses for heavy worm load.....unless they have some different brand that has a different concentrate - normally it is 1 cc per 10 pounds....

Pup should definitely go to vet for check up and to get started on vaccinations

Lee
01-05-2013 07:30 PM
EJQ
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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
everyone in this scenario tried to save money.

the family that had the pups -- don't want to say what is on my mind - it is not good !
toss the pup out as soon as possible

who knows what other issues there are .

who knows what the temperament is like .

New owner you have just encouraged people like this to continue because there is $$$ in it for them.

My thought is - get this pup to the vet because I bet it has never had a health check . For a worm load to be that heavy you can bet the pups nutrition has been compromised. Likely the pup was on the worst , cheapest food possible . You may want to know if the pup has a good heart, whether or not it may have a hernia , take a stool sample in to test for ALL worms .

It is not going to cost you 300 $$$'s . Not for worming .
Hopefully your dog is okay and hopefully poor breeding and raising will not cost you many $$$$$'s down the line.
Right On!!!!
01-05-2013 06:32 PM
selzer Wolfstraum, they always have me give 1cc for every 21 pounds. It's a real pain because I usually start them when they are 4-6 pounds so I round up to 7 pounds and give them 1/3 of a cc. Sometimes only 1/5 of a cc, so maybe I need to check out that dosage again.

The reason I remember this is because I do the bitch at the same time, and the thing is graduated to 3 ccs so I add a little bit more to worm the bitch. Anyhow, I freaked at one point when I realized that I double dosed a litter and called the vet and they said the stuff is very safe not to worry about it.
01-05-2013 04:38 PM
SS-GSD
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Originally Posted by selzer View Post
I know that some have suggested I use panacur at some point besides just strongid.

I get nervous when pups have symptoms from a worm infestation. To me a pup with worms is no big deal, worm them, but if they are having symptoms, then the infestation is great enough to go up a level in severity, and I wouldn't be comfortable with a young puppy having vomiting from worms, I would want a vet on board.
I've used both Panacur and Strongid. Strongid for "normal" puppy worms and Panacur if there are any tapeworms. Both are good products.

I do agree if puppy is puking up a bunch of worms, you need to get to the vet. A puppy at that advanced stage of worms you need to diagnose properly and treat properly. Don't play around with them, your pup is obviously VERY heavily infested and that can kill a dog so young. If puppy is puking then dehydration could kill it really quick too. And as someone else mentioned, that many worms your puppy is probably getting very little nutrition no matter how much you feed. It won't cost you $300 to treat the worms, your dog is going to need to be checked by a vet anyways so kill two birds with one stone. Pay the price of the check up and then get everything done in one go; the fecal and the dewormer. Puppy is going to eventually need vaccinations too, you need to get the puppy cleared of worms and get it healthy so you can get those. A fecal will also be the only option for picking up parasites that can't be seen without a microscope. Puppy could have something like coccidia which needs a VET to diagnose and treat.
01-05-2013 01:28 PM
Jax08
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Originally Posted by orgazmo1009 View Post
Exactly how I feel. We will go in, she will check her poop which is not nec. Cause it's 100% obvious and they will give her medicine which we can get anywhere. Don't see why that extra 300$ in expenses is necessary.
Why would it cost you $300? It should be the cost of a fecal test. Have you not had the puppy to the vet at all yet?

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Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
I had a puppy puke up worms at 6 weeks. The vet would only deworm for one worm at a time because he was worried about to many dying off at once and causing a blockage.
I didn't realize I would need to expand on this. This puppy had 3 different types of worms and was dewormed with the appropriate dewormer for the specific worm. I was there...they did come out in large clumps that could have easily caused a blockage. If you do a quick google search you will see that, while many dewormers are general to most worms, there are different dewormers for different parasites and obviously in my case she needed different dewormers. I have no idea what worms your puppy has. I was simply sharing my experience with you.

You have several breeders and one very experienced vet tech who responded. Lee (Wolfstraum), Sue (Selzer) and WyomingGrandma gave you excellent advice and wouldn't steer you wrong. Follow their instructions and you should be fine. I wish you the best with your puppy.

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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
. take a stool sample in to test for ALL worms .
And another experienced breeder I missed listing above. THIS^^^ was the reason I posted my experience. If a fecal test is not done, you have no idea what kind of worms you are trying to kill off.
01-05-2013 01:13 PM
llombardo People are assuming that the OP got a dog from a breeder and paid money for it...I'm thinking that the OP didn't pay at all or a ton of money for the dog, got the dog from someone they know(possibly a oops litter?) like they stated. The question at this point really isn't where the dog came from, what was paid for it, or its age. The OP needs help getting the puppy well...everything else is done, no sense in making anyone feel bad...the puppy didn't do anything wrong and didn't ask to be here(no matter how it got here)....Lets get the puppy better
01-05-2013 10:49 AM
carmspack everyone in this scenario tried to save money.

the family that had the pups -- don't want to say what is on my mind - it is not good !
toss the pup out as soon as possible

who knows what other issues there are .

who knows what the temperament is like .

New owner you have just encouraged people like this to continue because there is $$$ in it for them.

My thought is - get this pup to the vet because I bet it has never had a health check . For a worm load to be that heavy you can bet the pups nutrition has been compromised. Likely the pup was on the worst , cheapest food possible . You may want to know if the pup has a good heart, whether or not it may have a hernia , take a stool sample in to test for ALL worms .

It is not going to cost you 300 $$$'s . Not for worming .
Hopefully your dog is okay and hopefully poor breeding and raising will not cost you many $$$$$'s down the line.
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