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12-19-2012 06:40 PM
KatsMuse
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Originally Posted by GSDSchatzi View Post
Hello!

My GSD is just under 7 months and I am debating on when to spay her. Our breeder told us that we should not spay her until she is 14 months old so that he body can grow and so we don't throw the horomones off. She said if we were to spay early, we could run into a greater risk for hip problems.

However, almost every vet I have talked to suggested 5-6 months. They felt the risk for breast cancer was greater if we waited to spay, and they felt that had more chance of happening than spaying early and getting hip displaysia.

Does anyone have any opinions? I'm not sure what to do or who to trust; I just want what's best for my girl.

Thank you!
IMO, if you trust your vet...then go with her advice.

If you're overly concerned about her advice or don't trust your vet, I'd suggest seeking out another vet.
(I trust my vet but, a second opinion never hurts either)

Heat cycles don't bother me...it's natural and for us it's not a big deal. Personally, I don't spay that young.

JMO. Kat
12-19-2012 04:54 PM
msvette2u And our vet said it was negligible, you'll find vets with varying and different opinions on the subject, for sure
12-19-2012 04:45 PM
m1953
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Originally Posted by GSDSchatzi View Post
Hello!

My GSD is just under 7 months and I am debating on when to spay her. Our breeder told us that we should not spay her until she is 14 months old so that he body can grow and so we don't throw the horomones off. She said if we were to spay early, we could run into a greater risk for hip problems.

However, almost every vet I have talked to suggested 5-6 months. They felt the risk for breast cancer was greater if we waited to spay, and they felt that had more chance of happening than spaying early and getting hip displaysia.

Does anyone have any opinions? I'm not sure what to do or who to trust; I just want what's best for my girl.
Tim
Thank you!
My vet even said they push the 5 or 6 month age to spay to limit and reduce the unwanted pet populations. My vet even said those hormones are needed at least until there growth plates are complete. Wait until at least she has gone through her second heat.. 2 years old is a good time.
The big however I will add to that is when a dog is in heat, it's not fun.
12-19-2012 02:32 PM
sddeadeye I have seen pros and cons for spaying/neutering early and late. For me, I would prefer to spay a female earlier rather than later, and a male later. Right now my female is 10 months old and is in heat. It is kind of a pain to be honest. Our male golden is intact so it is a lot of kennel rotation. Although we are set up and able to handle opposite intact genders, I don't know that the average pet home would do the same. I wish she would have been spayed before her first heat. I took her to the vet this week for a wellness check since she's new and set up a spay appointment for next month when she is out of heat.

Overall, I think it is a matter of personal preference.
12-19-2012 02:16 PM
msvette2u
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Originally Posted by martemchik View Post
None of the health statistics are a guarantee. Most of them say something like, the instance of cancer X is 2.45% higher in intact dogs than in speutered dogs, with a 5% p-value. The only statistic I do trust is that neutered dogs have a 100% less chance of getting testicular cancer and spayed bitches have a 100% less chance of getting ovarian cancer. Those two...I'll hop on board with, everything else has not been proven in any laboratory to actually CAUSE a cancer.

The majority of dogs in the United States are speutered. They live long, healthy lives. If one does come down with cancer, there is absolutely no way of proving that it was caused by an early spay or neuter.
12-19-2012 01:43 PM
GatorBytes
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Originally Posted by msvette2u View Post
Human cancers have nothing to do with dog cancers.
Here is a little "friendly" challenge to this quote then I am done w/the subject

Endogenous Gonadal Hormone Exposure and Bone Sarcoma Risk

Endogenous Gonadal Hormone Exposure and Bone Sarcoma Risk

Spontaneous osteosarcoma in pet dogs closely mimics its human counterpart in terms of skeletal location, metaphyseal involvement, aggressive biological behavior, high propensity for pulmonary metastases, and response to cytotoxic chemotherapy (13, 14, 15) . An estimated 10,000 cases of bone sarcoma in pet dogs are diagnosed annually in the United States

Humans do not frequently undergo gonadectomy. In contrast, pet dogs frequently undergo elective gonadectomy, providing a unique population to study the influence of endogenous sex hormones on spontaneous bone sarcoma development. Data collected from veterinary teaching hospitals suggested that both male and female neutered dogs were at increased risk for bone sarcoma

To test the hypothesis that endogenous sex hormones significantly influence bone sarcomagenesis, we conducted a historical cohort study of Rottweiler dogs, a breed known to be at high risk for bone sarcoma. In addition, we determined whether adult height or body weight were significant risk factors for bone sarcoma between individuals of the same breed. Our results indicate that dogs undergoing early gonadectomy have a significantly higher risk of appendicular bone sarcoma, suggesting that sex hormones may be important modifiers of bone sarcoma development.
12-19-2012 01:39 PM
wolfy dog
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Originally Posted by MattLink View Post
Based on what I've read (I'm not an expert). I intend to neuter my dog at 3 years so that he will fully and naturally develop.
If you have made it this far, why neuter him anyways?
12-19-2012 01:38 PM
wolfy dog
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Originally Posted by msvette2u View Post
Since m/f dogs can reproduce at under 12 mos., yes.
Even younger in cats, btw. I have seen more than one kitten with baby teeth getting ready to have kittens herself.
I know it is kinda off topic but pet mice are even worse. I have seen nursing males court their baby sisters and aunties!!
12-19-2012 01:38 PM
martemchik None of the health statistics are a guarantee. Most of them say something like, the instance of cancer X is 2.45% higher in intact dogs than in speutered dogs, with a 5% p-value. The only statistic I do trust is that neutered dogs have a 100% less chance of getting testicular cancer and spayed bitches have a 100% less chance of getting ovarian cancer. Those two...I'll hop on board with, everything else has not been proven in any laboratory to actually CAUSE a cancer.

The majority of dogs in the United States are speutered. They live long, healthy lives. If one does come down with cancer, there is absolutely no way of proving that it was caused by an early spay or neuter.

In my opinion...if you're coming onto this forum, and asking a bunch of strangers for speutering advice, you're not ready to handle an intact animal. This isn't anything against OP, its against every single person that has done this over the last two years. Listen to your vet, or breeder, or other people you know and trust. At the end of the day, a normal pet owner (dog parker, not hardcore obedience trainer, ect) will have a much harder time with an intact animal. In my opinion, for most people, the joy of owning said dog will decrease by way more than that statistic about cancer x or cancer y.

It also takes away from the possibility of at 18 months someone with another GSD coming to that person and saying, "we have two beautiful dogs, they have amazing temperaments, we should breed them and make thousands of dollars." And the person with that dog actually thinking about it. I know we all hope that people wouldnt do that, but when you can get $500 a puppy or more, 10 puppies are a nice little paycheck for a few months of work and a little extra dog food.
12-19-2012 01:15 PM
MattLink Based on what I've read (I'm not an expert). I intend to neuter my dog at 3 years so that he will fully and naturally develop.
If it were a girl I'd worry more about breast cancer and have her fixed as early as is appropriate.


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