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12-11-2012 04:04 PM
Kaity E collar while playing with other dogs has the tenancy to cause dog-dog aggression. Dog might not relate what you're nic'ing him for properly. Instead, dog thinks bad things happen (shocks) when I play with this other dog. Lose-lose situation.
12-11-2012 03:57 PM
GSDcalab Thank you everyone for all your comments. I really appreciate it! Just so you know, I did not know that my friend was using a shock collar on her dog until we arrived. She "assured" me that her dog was "cured" of the behavior issues but the collar was needed "just in case" and to protect my pup. I was really nervous the whole time and I am not going to take my pup over there for play day anymore. Too risky. I am not familiar with e-collar training and do not use the method on my pup.

Yes, my pup has some other dogs she plays with and has a great time. She also goes to puppy school. My pup has the BEST temperment and is such a smart little girl. She is just perfect!!!! I feel very fortunate to have found the breeder recommendation from this website.

I will consider myself very lucky that nothing bad happened while playing with the e-collared male. It was very irresponsible of me to allow play once I was told about the e-collar. If I can't protect my pup from potential harm, who can......

12-11-2012 10:05 AM
the owner wants it on him during play " just in case" he gets too rough with my pup
IMHO this is precisely the wrong way to use an ecollar. When shocked while playing with another dog the dog with the collar doesn't think "Oh, I was playing too rough, I need to scale back". When shocked it thinks "This dog inflicts pain on me whenever I see it, I need to either ramp up my domination of it or slink away and attack it in fearful defense if it approaches me".

Also, Jocoyn is right. The aggressive male needs to be trained (properly) before play is allowed, and your dog is at a crucial stage where it needs to play with nice dogs, not problem ones.
12-11-2012 09:27 AM
onyx'girl I agree with Nancy, and big dogs can injure young pups just by rolling them while running. Is there a puppy play group or puppy class you can go to if you want to socialize your puppy with other dogs? I wouldn't do a dog park either...not fair to a young pup.
No comment on the ecollar use, it'll just cause a certain person to chime in and get yet another thread closed.
12-11-2012 09:23 AM
NancyJ Unless and adult dog was STELLAR in temperament there is no way he would be interacting with my 12 week old puppy. She needs to learn everything from dogs with great temperament. He is not even a mature dog.
12-11-2012 09:11 AM
Kyleigh double post
12-11-2012 09:09 AM
Kyleigh If your friend's dog, at 18 months, hasn't figured out how to play properly with a dog / puppy why would you try it with an e-collar? And an e-collar should NOT be used for this type of behaviour. What's your friend going to do if his dog thinks the shock comes from your pup? How's his dog going to react then?

An e-collar can be a great tool to use ... if you know what you are doing. By the way I've read your post ... your friend doesn't appear to have a clue how to PROPERLY use an e-collar.

Kyleigh is 18 months, weighs 60 pounds (weighed her last week!) and LOVES to play with a (SIGH from me - so not my "type" of dog) miniature white poodle. She has played with him since she was 12 weeks old and they absolutely ADORE each other. As she grew up / out she learned to temper her manner of play. The poodle has NEVER had to "put her in her place."

The male dog has behavior issues
and you'll let this dog play with your puppy???? I think you need to "rethink" your decision ... but that's just my two cents ...
12-11-2012 09:01 AM
GSDcalab My dog is a 12 week old female GSD puppy who does not wear a shock collar. My friend's GSD is a male 18 months old wearing a shock collar. The male dog has behavior issues and the owner wants it on him during play " just in case" he gets too rough with my pup.

We have had one play day. The male dog acted ok during the one hour and only got shocked upon introduction. I was very nervous during the play because the male dog weighs 80 pounds and my pup weighs 22 pounds. And, I knew the behavior issue history. But, my friend was ready to pull the trigger at any time.

Thoughts or comments?
12-11-2012 06:13 AM
doggiedad how old is your dog? do you know how to use an e-collar?

Originally Posted by GSDcalab View Post
Would like thoughts on letting a dog without a shock collar on play with a dog who has a shock collar on. Anyone with experience or thoughts?
12-11-2012 12:51 AM
billsharp We use an ecollar. I followed the instruction about leaving it on at times when NOT in training so the dog does not become collar smart. It worked perfectly. We left the collar on randomly for several hours at a time, other than when it was being used for training. Liesl never had a problem with it, and never got averse to us putting it on her. In fact, since I walk her in the evening off leash with the ecollar as a backup control, she associates it with going for a walk and will lick it when I try to put it on her.

We were careful to rotate the location of the contacts (also as the instructions say) to avoid creating sores, and to buckle it a little more loosely when not training with it, for the same reason.

I would not leave it on a dog when playing with another dog. It should not be used when dogs are playing with each other. Find another time to have your dog wear the collar.
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