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|12-12-2012 07:18 AM|
Kyleigh suggested I practice doing some obedience work with Sam and Ollie in the same room(they would both be a ways apart from each other and tethered so either one couldn't interfere) so that Sammy could hopefully see that I am the leader and in control with Ollie as well.
He obeys my commands very well, its just when it comes to other dogs is where I'm having problems. He is absolutely stellar with people though, I think he would make an outstanding therapy dog! We can't go anywhere with him without being stopped and him making even grown men fawn all over him and baby talk, lol. He is also so good with small children, I mean he absolutely adores them that it makes me feel guilty that my husband and I don't plan on having any.
He has his good points, I just have to remember that when he's making my hair turn grey.
I have also been paying a lot closer attention to his body language trying to figure out all his cues, I know one is going rigid but hopefully I'll be able to figure out more and be able to stop him before something happens from now on.
|12-10-2012 02:40 PM|
Originally Posted by Carriesue View Post
|12-10-2012 12:49 PM|
But thank you all for your help and suggestions even though Sam is not a GSD, I hope someone might find this thread helpful!
I've decided until I can bring in someone I'm just going to take him back to square one with training, everything just like a new puppy and work my way back up again!
|12-10-2012 09:10 AM|
|12-10-2012 09:05 AM|
I hope to get a trainer in soon, it's just that we've spent around 20 grand in the last couple months... Seems like everything in the house broke at once(had one 10k plumbing bill alone) and my older cat racked up several thousand with health issues and testing. So moneys a bit tight right now.
|12-10-2012 08:28 AM|
Originally Posted by Carriesue View Post
|12-10-2012 08:22 AM|
Originally Posted by codmaster View Post
|12-10-2012 03:33 AM|
A deterrent to/for what? For people to leave you alone?
Probably not likely, as most people have a VERY different concept of a Golden!
|12-10-2012 02:15 AM|
Thank you, that is some great info!
I totally agree with you about Sam taking over things that are not his job, we have had this issue with him for awhile and that is why I've been doing NILIF with him! It worked beautifully as far as him respecting and obeying me goes but when it comes to other dogs he takes over again. I'm not sure how to teach him that he doesn't need to guard things/people/dogs... He does not resource guard with people and he obeys the leave it command, I'm just pulling my hair out trying to get that to translate to dogs as well. I don't think he should have to share but its totally unacceptable for him to take it to the level he does.
That's true also he's never aggressed with the intent to harm, I'm just worried about it someday escalating to that. He's actually a golden doodle and he has A LOT of hair on his face so it's difficult to read him, sometimes I can't even see that he's snarling because of his beard, LOL. The only thing I've been able to read so far is sometimes his body goes rigid otherwise it's very hard to pick up his signals. The good news is Ollie is learning his boundaries and what he can and can't do with Sam so there has been a lot less issues at home... We were incident free for a long time but then Sam snapped at Ollie last night when Ollie was invading his space but I guess there's really nothing wrong with that. It's just like you said Ollie made a huge racket of crying and carrying on that its hard not to go into momma bear mode, lol.
My husband was there with me, he tried to take Sam to the other end where it was empty to play fetch but he was just not having it... he wanted to be with Ollie. We did correct him when he was growling and snarling at one dog trying too forcefully to play with Ollie and soon after that is when he snapped at the other puppy without any warning that I could make out... Should be not correct growling? Like you said I was mostly not wanting someone in the park taking offense to my dog growling at theirs. I just wish we knew people with dogs... The ONLY reason I go to the dog park is because this one is locals only, I know most of the people there and they all know us and everyone knows Sammy by name(he loves people more then anything in the world). So I know what to expect, when to go and when not to. It's very important to me that Ollie is good with other dogs and people.
And Ollie is just shy of four months but I will ONLY take him when the park is either empty or there are just a few regulars there with dogs I know. He's also in puppy class right now which is held at the humane society so he's already met a lot of dogs big, small and in between.
|12-10-2012 01:37 AM|
Totally agree with llombardo usually they have a "tell"
Anything from tensing the whole body, staring, or even just a wrinkling of the brow. My first dog was very dog aggressive, we did a lot of work with her and yeah finding her "warning" was so important - once I had it I could mostly divert her before anything bad could happen. (with her it was 2 wrinkles would appear between her ears as she got attentive) toward another dog.
With your golden "guarding" his puppy - he's not allowed to do that, while you are there it's YOUR responsibility not Sams to keep puppy safe. ATM Sam is taking leadership over both of you and in my book that's not acceptable.
The fact that the snapped at the other puppy is bad but also - he snapped AT it - if he had have wanted to he could have grabbed it and shaken it in a split second.
The puppy yelping and screaming and running away is also normal - it's how they defend themselves. It's letting the other dog know "I'm only a baby don't hurt me" - it sounds awful lol you'd think someone just cut their throat.
If I was you and I wanted to take both of them to the park together I'd get someone (ideally your partner if you have one) to go with you. One of you to watch over the puppy, the other one to take Sam on lead away from the puppies and just do some really basic walking and perhaps a few sits and drops (for food treats) - you demand Sams attention, he's supposed to look to you not the puppy.
If you are worried about him hurting another dog - get a muzzle - better safe than sorry and it will allow you to relax a little and not be so tense as he will pick up on that.
Even if you get him a "cute" pink muzzle
I think getting a behaviourist or a trainer may be a good idea just to give you a bit more confidence in handling the situation - sometimes it's nice to have some "backup" someone that knows how dogs work and don't think that you are the worst person in the world because your dog happened to growl or bark. So many people at dog parks just have no idea and get all rude and offensive.
How old is your puppy?
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