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12-10-2012 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Ageizm View Post
It'll be a long while before the pup challenges anything besides it's bladder.
That cracked me up!
12-10-2012 04:49 PM
martemchik Ok so trust me on this, although GSDs are smarter, stronger, and more opportunistic than most dogs, they really aren't as hard to handle as many people make you think they are. As long as you treat your dog fair, train, and just don't let it get away with certain things you'll be just fine. They are herding dogs, and like all herding dogs they like to make sure everything is under control. As long as you keep that control, your dog will fall right in line.

It is just not possible for a 3 month old to challenge anyone for any kind of power. Especially someone that is 10 times its size. Just keep training your dog, make sure the both of you try to train as evenly as possible. My dog was raised between my GF and myself. I am the main handler and yes, my dog listens to me a bit quicker than he does to her, but when he was younger, if she told him to do something, and he didn't, SHE would correct him. I would never step in, or give the command myself. The dog has to learn that it should listen to the both of you.

Try to find a training club where both of you can be involved in the training of the dog. Either training that is available twice a week and so you can do one day and he can do another day, or you do 6 weeks and then your BF does 6 weeks. Make sure that the both of you are constantly training and constantly asking your dog to do things for you. Neither of you should be an "alpha" but both of you should be leaders and yes, higher on the totem pole in your "pack." This is something your dog will learn over the course of the next few months and it is very rare for something that small to challenge one of the handlers and not the other.

I guess my other question would be is if you two live together? If you don't, and your BF just comes over and plays/helps but doesn't stay there, your dog might not have gotten the concept of him being in the "pack." He's just a friend that shows up every once in a while that she gets to play with, and more than likely without a lot of training by him, she'll never really listen to him. My dog only listens to immediate family, ones he sees on a regular basis, and even that is hit or miss depending on how he's feeling. The one thing I can tell you is that GSDs do stop listening to other people and generally will only obey their pack members unless they are regularly trained by random people.
12-10-2012 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by ayoitzrimz View Post
I don't like to think of myself as alpha or pack leader. I am a human. My dog knows I'm a human.
I approve this message!

Who cares who's the Alpha/Pack leader? Humans supersede all animal kingdom pecking orders, with exception only to other humans.

It'll be a long while before the pup challenges anything besides it's bladder. Gratz on the new addition =)
12-10-2012 04:08 PM
Lori13 No.. Not my first dog... My first GSD...
12-09-2012 10:56 PM
martemchik Is this your first dog? You sound like you have very strong beliefs in one training method and are set in your ways but for some reason are asking for advice on a public forum.

Cesar Milan is great, but he's a PET trainer and the things you see on TV are dogs that have most of the time been ruined by owners that didn't know what they were doing. If you're doing some of his methods as preventative methods so that you don't get a "red zone" dog then that's fine, but the chances of you having that if you got your dog from a reputable breeder are probably very small.

At 3 months old, she's not challenging anyone. She's playing. A dog barking doesn't necessarily mean a challenge. It can mean a variety of different things. Most of the time its excitement or fear at that age. Trust us, she doesn't want to be the alpha at this point, and you don't need to go all Cesar Milan on her to establish yourself as the alpha. Just be a good, fair, confident leader and you'll become the alpha without having to destroy your dog's confidence.

I've spoken to so many people that believe their dog is an "alpha" when really its just that they don't have proper leadership so the dog decides to make its own decisions. They tell you how their dog is an "alpha" when it comes to other dogs and then their dog gets it handed to them by a more confident dog that just doesn't want to take their dog's crap. Really do some research on the whole "alpha" thing. Even Cesar doesn't use that method anymore, he actually never ever says "alpha."
12-09-2012 10:45 PM
doggiedad alpha, pack leader, dominance is overrated. i'm thinking
your BF plays differently with the pup. he probably gets
her excited when he plays with her. her barking and nipping
is probably excited play.
12-09-2012 10:21 PM
msvette2u You ought to check out this link for training tips

Mind Games (version 1.0) by M. Shirley Chong

At 3mos. you don't want to go "all out" with Mind Games but start slowly implementing some.

Don't roll the puppy over (if you are doing so or thinking of doing so), there's many reasons to not do so, but especially because that alpha/dominance theory has been debunked in the dog world.
12-09-2012 10:18 PM
Lori13 My BF tries correct her.. Addie usually barks at him. Just doesn't mind him as much as she minds me... Our puppy, I guess just thinks he is playing with her... I think that pups from an early age start to learn dominance..
12-06-2012 12:23 PM
Sunflowers I am thinking he doesn't respect your boyfriend as much and treats him like a littermate.
What does he do differently from you when interacting with the dog?
12-06-2012 12:22 PM
GSDElsa And again...your puppy is 3 months old and doesn't challenge anyone at this point. more likely your boyfriend is just more fun to cause trouble with than you
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