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01-15-2013 12:36 AM
LeoRose This is my Leo a few days after I rescued her. She was about 12 weeks old at the time. I've been told, in the critique section, that she has a reverse mask.
01-15-2013 12:32 AM
kai0401
reversed mask gsd

01-15-2013 12:25 AM
kai0401 http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...21-120242.html
01-15-2013 12:23 AM
kai0401
12-09-2012 10:50 PM
BlackthornGSD Actually, from what I understand, the mask pattern that Lord has is a result of fading and that many of his descendents with dark muzzles will end up with a reverse mask as mature adults. Maybe that's why they retain the black masking around the lips as opposed to not having the muzzle-mask at all, as you see in, say, Rotties or Dobes.
12-07-2012 03:06 PM
Liesje Yeah to me Hans, Mikko, and the ones Lisa posted (coming from Lord), and my Coke are what I picture when someone says "reverse mask", though it's really just a lack of a mask, not reverse anything. But you are right because it's not really a color pattern anyway, it's just lack of a mask. However I guess I would say to use the term the color is pretty much set once the dog is 12-18 months or so, I wouldn't use that term to describe normal fading of color over the dog's lifetime. Like I don't think an older dog that gets faded in the face is a "reverse mask" (for example my 11 year old foster dog Ruger had very little mask left but did when he was younger). A dog with little black on the muzzle will see it mentioned in a show critique but an older dog that is faded white probably will not, if that makes sense.
12-07-2012 02:58 PM
I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO
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Sables are very distinctly sable from birth. I highly doubt that the dog in the photo is doing to loose all that black on the muzzle before 18 months or so. Mikko is what I think of when someone says "reverse mask" though I don't think the term itself is accurate.
Oh sorry, I misunderstood what you were referring to I think. I thought you when you said from birth, that like Mikko and Hans and other reverse mask dogs (or whatever you want to call it) shouldn't have a term that refers to their coloring because they aren't born that way. That's what I meant in referencing sables (probably a bad example) and the saddle coloration (better example).
I think you were actually referring to the other dog posted who is older and still has the black mask? I don't think that dog has a reverse mask, and agree further lightening would be due to age but not color pattern.
12-07-2012 02:52 PM
Sunflowers Could it be called reverse because the bottom of the muzzle is still black?
12-07-2012 02:48 PM
Liesje Sables are very distinctly sable from birth. I highly doubt that the dog in the photo is doing to loose all that black on the muzzle before 18 months or so. Mikko is what I think of when someone says "reverse mask" though I don't think the term itself is accurate.
12-07-2012 02:42 PM
I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO
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Even if it did I wouldn't describe a dog's color pattern based on fading with age. I tend to think of a color pattern as something the dog was born with. For example my dog with the brown nose and black forehead has always been that way, even if he may still lighten further.
Why not? Sables don't look anything like they do when they are young. Many GSDs have much more black on them when they are young, look more like blanket backs, but then will be considered saddle backs. The reverse mask is the same way, as puppies they have a black mask that fades with their puppyhood.
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