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11-26-2012 01:23 PM
Kyleigh
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Originally Posted by Lilie View Post
I'm curious (because I think this would provide the missing link for me) did your pup hit the end of the leash with impact, twist in the air and grab your arm? Or did your pup hit the end of the leash, recieve the correction, turn and run the length of the long lead towards you, leap and grab your arm?
I am wondering the same thing.

Last fall I had Kyleigh on a tie out in the front yard while I was gardening. She was about 6 or 7 months old and all of a sudden a squirrel came REALLY close to her. She took off after the squirrel ... as I'm yelling LEAVE IT, and running to her. She definitely hit the end of the tie out and popped back (almost flipped over) and I was right in her path ... she bit me, and good!

BUT, I didn't do a thing about it because I figured it was "reflex" mouth popping closed? Or something like that ...

She never has gone after another squirrel while on her tie out tho!
11-26-2012 12:57 PM
Lilie
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I grabbed the leash just as she was going to jump at my daughter and said no. She hit the end of the leash pretty hard, giving herself a correction.. turned around and jumped and latched onto my bicep giving me the worst bite she has ever given me.
I'm curious (because I think this would provide the missing link for me) did your pup hit the end of the leash with impact, twist in the air and grab your arm? Or did your pup hit the end of the leash, recieve the correction, turn and run the length of the long lead towards you, leap and grab your arm?
11-26-2012 12:44 PM
Mary Beth My Sting pulled that once at 8 months when he was 90 lbs- the glint in the eye then ram right at me. Fortunately I had a thick parka on. I was so ticked off - I alpha rolled him. He never did it again. I then worked with him and taught him (yes bite that tug I'm holding) no, when you feel the urge - I am not a decoy, nor is the cat. It didn't inhibit his bite - he loves tug and will bite hard down on the tugs. He just had to learn what he could bite at and what not. At 5 months, Sting was not as advanced your working line pup, but he still needed to learn - no chasing after the cat - no playing tug with the leash and so on. I know you posted as is this hard or soft - well, it is hard, in my viewpoint, but not acceptable for any pup. Your pup bit your daughter out hiking, now when you stop her and she hits the end of the leash - she turns and bites you. To be frank, this doesn't sound like you have a handle on the problem.
11-26-2012 12:21 PM
Mary Beth
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�� Ain't that the truth. Haha

Yes if she would have made contact on my daughter it would not have been good. But I was already preventing that with the long line. Instead of stepping on it I walked close to her to tell her no, make her sit and redirect her to the bone near my chair. So I put myself in the line of fire I guess.

She has always liked to chase and bite. But her prey drive has taken a huge leap the past week or so. She REALLY is enjoying it. She's hitting the tug and flirt pole thing with much more intensity these days. So this is relatively new. Habit was probably the wrong word because she hasn't been doing it for long but she has made an attempt several times. Apparently thinking before typing is not my strong suit. But I can catch it quickly. She gets a little crazy gleam In Her eye, ears perk, sometimes a momentary stare and then she'll want to take off. Or sometimes she's bouncy bouncy excited and just wants anything near by to grab in her mouth.

She is getting better about trying to bite my hands throughout the day. Especially when tired. And she never puts her mouth on the baby. If she's close to him she gets slow and gentle and gives him a kiss. But shes rarely close enough to kiss him. She's usually just close enough to hear him and smell him and all that. I'm actually amazed at the natural instinct around him to be very gentle and slow.

Also, although it doesn't make biting kids ok or anything, rogue is a VERY small 5 month old. Only 25 pounds and about 17 inches, I believe. So this is not a 50-60 pound dog pulling me over mauling children or anything.

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11-26-2012 01:02 AM
codmaster
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You don't have to leave or get emotional. The original question is when did you know you had a hard or soft dog. That's it. And just to clarify:
*I do not let my dog bite my children.
*I also do not allow my child to tease the dog, making the dog want to chase and bite her more. And have explained that things like high pitched noises and flailing arms get puppies excited to chase and bite.
*I do not give physical corrections, aside from removing her from a situation at this time.
*the appropriate age for a physical correction depends on the dog, and the goals for the dog. But generally not until the dog understands the rules or the behavior being asked of him and then chooses to ignore them. Which is taught with positive reinforcement first.

I think that should clarify it all. Next time I will slow down and proof read before posting. Whew.

And I asked here, even though I'm working with a club, because it was like 4 pm on a Sunday night and I was curious of Other's experiences. As I said I'm not new to dogs and training, but I am no pro either. Can always learn more and I enjoy and respect many member's opinions and experiences here.

Oh and I am a SHE Irrelevant! But sounds like a positive only approach!


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11-26-2012 12:03 AM
Capone22
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Of course you are......only a "SHE" could manage a baby, a 5 year old AND a GSD puppy all at the same time!!!
👍 Ain't that the truth. Haha

Yes if she would have made contact on my daughter it would not have been good. But I was already preventing that with the long line. Instead of stepping on it I walked close to her to tell her no, make her sit and redirect her to the bone near my chair. So I put myself in the line of fire I guess.

She has always liked to chase and bite. But her prey drive has taken a huge leap the past week or so. She REALLY is enjoying it. She's hitting the tug and flirt pole thing with much more intensity these days. So this is relatively new. Habit was probably the wrong word because she hasn't been doing it for long but she has made an attempt several times. Apparently thinking before typing is not my strong suit. But I can catch it quickly. She gets a little crazy gleam In Her eye, ears perk, sometimes a momentary stare and then she'll want to take off. Or sometimes she's bouncy bouncy excited and just wants anything near by to grab in her mouth.

She is getting better about trying to bite my hands throughout the day. Especially when tired. And she never puts her mouth on the baby. If she's close to him she gets slow and gentle and gives him a kiss. But shes rarely close enough to kiss him. She's usually just close enough to hear him and smell him and all that. I'm actually amazed at the natural instinct around him to be very gentle and slow.

Also, although it doesn't make biting kids ok or anything, rogue is a VERY small 5 month old. Only 25 pounds and about 17 inches, I believe. So this is not a 50-60 pound dog pulling me over mauling children or anything.

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11-26-2012 12:01 AM
yuricamp Just to add my comments on here, I thought I would never be able to allow my dog to interact with my 2 yo daughter because whenever I played with him as a young pup, his sharp teeth would draw blood, all accidentally of course, in that there was no malicious intent just him playing as he did with his litter mates. He is now nineteen months old and well past his puppy years and that fear has since passed. I think they just have to get past their excitable "toddler" stage.
Now I just worry, because whenever he is inside around my nine month old he wants to lick his face, especially his mouth, and that annoys the devil out of me and irritates the baby.
11-25-2012 11:45 PM
Capone22
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Originally Posted by sparra View Post
Of course you are......only a "SHE" could manage a baby, a 5 year old AND a GSD puppy all at the same time!!!
👍 Ain't that the truth. Haha


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11-25-2012 11:36 PM
Narny
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Of course you are......only a "SHE" could manage a baby, a 5 year old AND a GSD puppy all at the same time!!!

Only a she would be willing too!
11-25-2012 11:33 PM
sparra
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Oh and I am a SHE

Of course you are......only a "SHE" could manage a baby, a 5 year old AND a GSD puppy all at the same time!!!
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