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01-15-2013 03:38 PM
jang I'm sorry...you went through so much and then this....Life is really hard..not for the light of heart that's for sure
01-15-2013 03:31 PM
codmaster D$#$#! Very tough!

Our deepest sympathy!!!!!!
01-15-2013 03:29 PM
MikeMarvel Thanks for the kind words. It was an unexpected event. I've had GSD's all my life and never experienced this before. But, It's likely true what was said about any dog could be prone to it.

What was unique, was that as Katey laid on the floor, our other GSD (Heidi) went up to her, and sniffed her, and got nose to nose. I'm thinking that she was checking for breathing...maybe not. I think Heidi knew. It was a trying moment (for me too).
01-15-2013 02:58 PM
JakodaCD OA I am so very very sorry Katey passed away

Your vet is wrong as to "cause",,while it seems like the majority of gsd's are ones with PF's, there are many other breeds that also develop them. Has nothing to do with "inbreeding", it "may" be in the genes but it also may not.

PF disease is just something that can crop up with any type of dog and no rhyme or reason to it.

Katey may not have passed from the PF's, it sounds like maybe something else was going on with her..again I am sorry for your loss
01-15-2013 02:58 PM
Courtney
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Originally Posted by MikeMarvel View Post
This morning, Katey passed away. She was fine when I took her outside around 5 AM. Around 6AM, she started throwing up, and generally lost all her function controls. About 8 AM she couldn't walk, and made it until about 8:30 AM. It was a surprise for us, as the Vet said nothing on how grave (life threatening) her condition was. Her last visit to the Vet was a bit over a week ago, and the Vet said her condition was looking like it improved.

He also said that this condition is pretty much just a German Shepherd thing from inbreeding. So, that's about it. We will likely keep our eyes open for another one.
Mike,

I am so sorry to hear about your Katey...so unfair
01-15-2013 02:49 PM
MikeMarvel
Final Update (unfortunately)

This morning, Katey passed away. She was fine when I took her outside around 5 AM. Around 6AM, she started throwing up, and generally lost all her function controls. About 8 AM she couldn't walk, and made it until about 8:30 AM. It was a surprise for us, as the Vet said nothing on how grave (life threatening) her condition was. Her last visit to the Vet was a bit over a week ago, and the Vet said her condition was looking like it improved.

He also said that this condition is pretty much just a German Shepherd thing from inbreeding. So, that's about it. We will likely keep our eyes open for another one.
01-07-2013 01:22 PM
MikeMarvel
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I have gone through PF with a dog and we underwent surgery for them which is, apparently now considered passe. The dog did have serious immune system issues, steep croup, and low tailset.

He had some LONG tracts going deep into his legs and the surgeon was awesome (I drove 6 hours one way to a vet in Harrisonburg VA based on recommendations from another on the PF-L site). It was a bad case that responded poorly to about 6 months of medical approaches. The reason I considered was because my own husband had pilonidal cysts and after battling for years surgery took care of them forever.

He lived 4 years after that with zero fecal incontinence and no recurrence. Was ultimately PTS due to hemangiosarcoma.
Sorry to hear that. I can imagine that this condition can be painful. Katey doesn't seem to be in pain. The Vet did give a script for pain. I've had GSD's all my life, and this is a new one for me. I'm aware that this could be a life long treatment situation. It's up to about $900 so far. The cyclosporine ointment is $100 for a small tube about 3" long...maybe 3-4 oz's. My last GSD had liver cancer, and she didn't last long with it.

Another one developed a tumor on her front ankle...had it removed 3 times. The last time was a different Vet, that got all the cells. We are still with that Vet. Then the dog tore a tibia ligament in a rear leg, and had to undergo TPLO surgery. She racked up about $8000 in Vet bills during her 12 years.

Before her I had two...a big male and a medium size female that were two years apart, gave us puppies, and both lived to be 14, without any medical problems. I will spend whatever it takes to treat family members, and that's what GSD's are. I'm thinking that with current research, the doctors can pretty much isolate the problems that were likely referred to in the past as problems due to old age.
01-07-2013 12:02 PM
jocoyn I have gone through PF with a dog and we underwent surgery for them which is, apparently now considered passe. The dog did have serious immune system issues, steep croup, and low tailset.

He had some LONG tracts going deep into his legs and the surgeon was awesome (I drove 6 hours one way to a vet in Harrisonburg VA based on recommendations from another on the PF-L site). It was a bad case that responded poorly to about 6 months of medical approaches. The reason I considered was because my own husband had pilonidal cysts and after battling for years surgery took care of them forever.

He lived 4 years after that with zero fecal incontinence and no recurrence. Was ultimately PTS due to hemangiosarcoma.
01-07-2013 11:57 AM
gagsd PFs can be very difficult. They get better, then have flare ups.
All natural diet (I am currently cooking for mine and supplementing with raw), low stress environment, and meds.
I am currently trying acupuncture and the Four Marvels powder with the diet.... seeing some improvement.
Desitin/ viscous lidocaine mix works well for pain.
01-07-2013 11:46 AM
MikeMarvel There's been no response to my previous post, so I thought I would provide an update. We're still with our Vet's prescription of Prednisone, Cyclosporine ointment, and continued use of Neo Pre-Def powder. She still drinks quite a bit of water. She still shows slight laboring with pooping.

We changed her diet to Van Patten's "Natural Balance" Sweet Potato and Fish. She really likes it, and reacts well with it. The Vet says she looks much better (the rear), and she is maintaining her same weight.
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