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11-19-2012 12:44 PM
Jag Well, this is where my frustration came into play. He's come trotting or running over before... to play. He and Layla will play tug together, also. So I had no reason to think there was going to be any trouble... or that he was upset. If he'd growled... or done anything other than what he'd done in the past, I'd have certainly stopped him. Going after food... it would be obvious to stop that. He's come over to join in play, though, hundreds of times without incident. He doesn't always... but sometimes he does. He isn't pushy about it, either. Sometimes my brain works in slow mode, especially when I'm in a flare. I'm in a flare now because of the moving stress. So maybe someone else could have reacted in that 2 seconds. I was just in a state of shock. If he was 'upset' I'd have expected him to growl at her or something. That was another reason I didn't react right off. However, I certainly won't allow it to happen again. I will assume he has bad intentions, and after we move and settle, I will leash him and play with her like this and correct his behavior. I don't usually play with her like this when he's out (to the point that she goes into her wild growling). It's usually something I do with her when he's crated and I have my 'alone time' with her. She doesn't always growl when you play with her. I honestly don't remember if she's done it in front of him or not. It's still not an excuse. He cannot be acting like that. She doesn't usually growl or anything when playing with him, either. He sounds like a bear cub, but she's quiet. She did make all kinds of noise when playing with our old lady mutt. I don't know why she's quiet when playing with him. They play really rough, too. She loves it. She doesn't know she's a 'small dog'.
11-19-2012 12:34 PM
Blanketback I guess maybe it just wasn't so shocking to us. But when it happens to us, it's a reflex action to grab the puppy and stop the behavior right that moment, not let the action play out. And by knowing the consequences that result from it. Like if the puppy gets the Thanksgiving tukey cooling on the counter, even just that one time, a counter surfer is now born. Nothing at all was meant to be taken personally, it was meant to be a heads up. I don't know about the other posters who were part of this "slam" idea, but I'd bet my life they feel the same way I do.
11-19-2012 12:17 PM
Jag
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I had a hunch you were upset over the other thread. I know life can bombard us with too much crap all at once. I know all about loose stools from indulgences also, lol -dried liver in my case. So you're human, just like the rest of us. But next time (if there is one) when you post something, and someone replies with some advice, maybe just say, "Thanks" and realize that they only have the dogs' best interest in mind.
I will try to do that. For now, I'm just going to keep my pup to myself. I just thought something so shocking would be good to share. My bad. I will admit I'm very, very stressed right now, and have been for the past week or so. The house we're moving to is less than ideal. I can understand someone wanting what's in the dog's best interest, but if someone posts that they've got it... well, I trust that they've got it. Especially if they've posted that they've had other GSDs and aren't new to the breed, training, etc. Maybe I shouldn't have felt so insulted, and I didn't at first. The more it went on, though...

Good lesson here. Think before you post.
11-19-2012 12:04 PM
Blanketback I had a hunch you were upset over the other thread. I know life can bombard us with too much crap all at once. I know all about loose stools from indulgences also, lol -dried liver in my case. So you're human, just like the rest of us. But next time (if there is one) when you post something, and someone replies with some advice, maybe just say, "Thanks" and realize that they only have the dogs' best interest in mind.
11-19-2012 11:52 AM
Jag
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I read everything you wrote, as I'm sure the others did too. Your defensiveness is really confusing me, since I don't know why you feel this way. I don't know why you'd feel frustrated either, for that matter. You posted a story about Grimm, and we shared our experiences.

ps. in the other thread, about the spouse letting the other spouse choose their dog, Jag refers to his wife. So I also thought you were male, sorry.
If someone told you that you were doing something that you weren't doing over and over again... you wouldn't become frustrated? Being chastised like you had NO clue how to handle your pup? Really?

Maybe I got tired of it and frustrated because I was just sharing a 'holy cow!' moment and got a bunch of advice like I was new to pups or I don't have a clue. Maybe it's because I just got 'you're an idiot' from Lou on another thread. Maybe because I'm PMSing as well. Maybe because I'm doing a VERY stressful move. Maybe because it's clear to others also that no one was listening. Maybe just because I'm human.

I never corrected anyone's false assumptions because I take enough flack IRL. Also, I've been told I have a 'male brain' so I'm not offended when people assume online that I'm male. What I *do* get offended about are negative comments about who I am and when people then start referring to my wife as my 'friend' or my 'partner' which I find very disrespectful. If you want to know it all, I've been with my wife over 11 happy years. Right now is NOT a happy time due to the move. My health doesn't allow me to really help much at all, which I'm not happy about. It's very disorganized, which I'm stressed about.

To top it off, my pup pooped in his crate at some point before he was let out this morning (loose stool) and now in the middle of this madness I have to bathe him. I guess the meat he was given at dinner last night made his tummy upset. Now I feel guilty about that as well as frustrated because we really don't have the time to deal with that today.
11-19-2012 11:24 AM
Blanketback
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When you post something about what your dog did that you didn't expect, I'll give you the same responses and see how you feel. I'm sure 'frustrated' will be your first response. Especially when no one is reading what you actually wrote.
I read everything you wrote, as I'm sure the others did too. Your defensiveness is really confusing me, since I don't know why you feel this way. I don't know why you'd feel frustrated either, for that matter. You posted a story about Grimm, and we shared our experiences.

ps. in the other thread, about the spouse letting the other spouse choose their dog, Jag refers to his wife. So I also thought you were male, sorry.
11-19-2012 11:23 AM
Jag
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Well I apologize for "assuming" but I'm sure others did as well due to the type statements above.
I DO have a wife. I've got papers to prove it. Thank you for the apology. I'd read through your link before, and read it again. I've read every link you've ever posted. I've been using those things since the beginning, too.
11-19-2012 11:21 AM
Jag
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I agree. It seemed that the OP was accepting that this is just how life is going to be, and I was alarmed because when you have a strong-willed dog you have to always be on top of your game or you'll let the dog get the upper hand. Things aren't going to get better, they will only going to get worse.
This behavior has to be nipped in the bud, and the sooner the better.
Yet, I said it was going to be... but you didn't stop. Do you think I don't know what I have? I've said before the breeder explained CLEARLY who he was before I got him. She went over exactly how he needed to be handled. They AREN'T going to get worse. I NEVER said I 'accepted this is how life is going to be'. EVER. The title of my post referred to not playing with the Pug with him loose, because his reaction has changed. NOT that I'm never going to play with the Pug again because he won't let me. Please don't call my boy a 'brat puppy', either. He's NOT a brat. He's a PUPPY who has a strong will that needs to be controlled and channeled. Which he has been and it will be. He's a GOOD pup.
11-19-2012 11:21 AM
Lilie
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Well I apologize for "assuming" but I'm sure others did as well due to the type statements above.
I'd just leave it, Msvette. One day your help/advice/experiance will be needed and you'll have to keep quiet in an effort not to offend.
11-19-2012 11:16 AM
msvette2u
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2. No, I'm not a man. Another wrong assumption on your part.
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My wife's older mutt has been dealing with her issues just fine.

Both my wife and I have been battling a nasty cold/virus/infection for a week now
Well I apologize for "assuming" but I'm sure others did as well due to the type statements above.
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