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01-22-2015 05:46 PM
onyx'girl Well water could very well play into the extra minerals, etc. After researching diet for kidney issues, filtered water is recommended so the dog doesn't have to process extra minerals. Though where I live, it is very sandy soil and our water is really good, clear and not real hard or rusty.
As far as vaccines playing into Pano, I don't think it does. My females first bout was at 6 months, her rabies vax was at 4 months.
After reading about Dr. Dodds protocols, I'd never give the rabies vaccine with others. Space them out at least two weeks apart.
01-22-2015 03:33 PM
wolfy dog In Deja's litter all the males (the larger and smaller ones) had Pano and none of the females. The females are petite. She is 15 months old and weighs 60 pounds.
01-22-2015 12:30 PM
Heike's mom I have read that it could be, our 5 month old GSD was hit hard with Pano immediately after her 3rd set of puppy shots, which that one included rabies vaccine. Has anyone else noticed a correlation between pano and rabies vaccine. We are treating her with an anti-inflammatory 2x daily as needed as per the vet. She is still in a bit of pain as she favors a couple legs still and will whimper if the other dog bumps her wrong when they are playing. I think it is going to be a long couple of years.

We have well water also, it is high in calcium-should I be buying bottled water or getting jugs of city water? What do you think?
11-12-2012 10:33 PM
Mikelia My Pano dog was raised in the city, quite close to the dupont plant which dumps a LOT of waste into the lake. So might be on to something there lol. My childhood dog started the pano problems when we were in the country though.
Eli was never fed puppy food, started with Innova Evo (before P&G owned it) which is quite similar to Orijen. This is what he was fed up until the Pano started. Eventually we tried some lower protein holistic foods. Tried some supplements. Kept getting pano bouts. Then did a ton of research on specific ingredients to avoid, calcium, phosphorus, selenium, magnesium etc... levels, did a ton more research trying to find a food that matched that, fed that food for 6 months and his poops were great but the pano bouts never stopped until he finally stopped growing. However he is a very big boy and was always a big puppy. Thick bones and grew fast - although steadily. He was 95lbs the last time I weighed him, and has always been kept quite lean.
I am always exctied about pano discussions hoping to figure out the answer some day.
11-12-2012 12:43 AM
jaggirl47
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
I have two nuclear plants within an hours drive....does that make a difference? jk

Ummm. I think we have an answer! That makes me think though. How many pano dogs live in a similar type of situation?
11-12-2012 12:35 AM
onyx'girl I have two nuclear plants within an hours drive....does that make a difference? jk
11-12-2012 12:33 AM
jaggirl47 I have well water too. No pano here (so far).
11-12-2012 12:17 AM
lhczth LOL I have well water.
11-11-2012 11:38 PM
onyx'girl I kept Karlo and Onyx lean, even to the point that people commented they looked too thin.
Though they grew about 3# per week on average, which I know is not 'average'!
Onyx had a brother that had Pano(he was on a grocery store brand!) but both were long legged/gangly. She is the biggest female in her litter, most are a couple few inches shorter and much lighter in weight....as are Karlo's siblings.

I wonder if my well water played into my puppies growth, I'm serious!
11-11-2012 11:32 PM
Vinnie
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Sundance comes from generations (mother & grandmother) of raw fed dogs and has always been fed a raw diet. Now his growth rate was shockingly fast to me. I remember being real worried about pano with him just because of how fast he grew. I was very careful about his diet and really tried to control his growth while being careful to assure he received the proper nutrition but nothing helped. He is just over 17 months of age and 87.5#. The vet says he is a healthy weight but could maybe gain a pound or 2. I'd have to ask his breeder if his siblings or parents have ever had pano. He has never experienced pano
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IMO there is a genetic component influenced by environment. I know some people who have had terrible luck with Pano in just about all of their dogs, male and female. I have never experienced Pano in either my kibble fed dogs or since I switched to raw (almost 14 years ago and 3 generations). I have owned mostly bitches and one over-sized moose (Donovan). I tend to keep my pups lean and allow free exercise/play.
And that would answer the question about if Sundance's family has had any history of pano.
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