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01-09-2013 01:37 PM
Lauri & The Gang
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Originally Posted by ShoshanaRVT View Post
Also, any other suggestions/nuggets of wisdom anyone can pass on would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much!
I don't think anyone mentioned this but here's a suggestion. Find a breeder that you think is doing it right - producing the right type of dogs and doing it the way you think is right - and ask them if they would be willing to mentor you.
01-09-2013 03:22 AM
Freestep
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There defiantly needs to be more research into straight leg shepherds. It does look like there are some mutts that have popped up with it as well as a rottie.

I don't agree that sloped backs have nothing to do with this. The abnormality forms in the lumbar region, and sloped conformation GSDs differ from their straight-backed kin from the lumbar region down.
If Rotties and mutts are popping up with this syndrome, it sort of defeats your argument that it has anything to do with a "sloped back". Furthermore, the "slope" is not caused by the back, but the rear legs. Because show lines (most notably American show lines) have such acute angulation in the rear legs, it causes the rear end to appear lower than the front end, with the back sloping downward... but if you were to put a normal set of rear legs on the dog, the back would appear more or less level.
01-09-2013 12:37 AM
ShoshanaRVT There defiantly needs to be more research into straight leg shepherds. It does look like there are some mutts that have popped up with it as well as a rottie. I do not know definitively that this is a GSD show dog disease, it is unknown what is causing it. We know it is congenital, does this mean it's genetic? So far it's unknown. Hopefully the missing link will be found soon so that we can avoid producing more dogs like Boomer.

I don't agree that sloped backs have nothing to do with this. The abnormality forms in the lumbar region, and sloped conformation GSDs differ from their straight-backed kin from the lumbar region down. Conformation is breeding for appearances and alone does not produce healthy, sound dogs and never will. Talk to any orthopaedic surgeon about our so-called champion GSD, and s/he won't need radiographs to tell you that that dog is a walking vet bill. There are good conformation breeders out there who have their dogs screened for diseases, titled in a variety of sports to prove that they are athletic, sound and intelligent as well as just pretty. They're a working breed, go back to basics, breed them for the jobs that they are meant to do and form will follow. The GSDs that I admire most are from working lines: Sound in mind and body.
01-05-2013 08:01 AM
JakodaCD OA GT thank you, that's her
01-05-2013 01:53 AM
GT
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there is someone on this forum (and forgive me I can't remember their handle) who's had quite a few shepherds with this, she has adopted them because of their special needs. I don't recall the lines of the dogs she has/had. Maybe another member can fill in the blanks
Joanne ("Spiritsmam") adopted several GSDs with straight hind legs.
Disabled German Shepherds, hindlimb deformity, limb deformity, straight leg shepherds

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01-04-2013 07:47 AM
JakodaCD OA there is someone on this forum (and forgive me I can't remember their handle) who's had quite a few shepherds with this, she has adopted them because of their special needs. I don't recall the lines of the dogs she has/had. Maybe another member can fill in the blanks

And I do not believe it is due to 'sloped back"...if so, as Daphne said, there would be hundreds out there with it.
01-03-2013 10:57 PM
ShoshanaRVT Liesje: Terribly unscientific, so far it's just called straight-leg-shepherds. Medically speaking it would just be listed as "multiple hindlimb abnormalities". Unfortunately the only information on-line is terribly out of date at this time and there just simply isn't much out there to begin with. The largest issue that the people trying to research this condition faces is the majority of pups are humanly euthanized very young or at birth. Therefore many dogs cannot be screened for other diseases that can be very similar or even to added into the database if they are indeed a straight-leg shepherds.
12-07-2012 04:28 PM
Liesje Maybe I missed it but what's the name of Boomer's condition?
12-07-2012 12:24 PM
ShoshanaRVT Andaka: It is something that is popping up in the USA show lines. I do not know extensive details because Boomer is only part of the study (and one of the first documented dogs). I'm not actually doing anything other than submitting samples and information, and occasionally getting updates. There is still many years of work to know the root cause and possibly develop a genetic test. The only thing they know thus far is it is showing up in GSDs: reputable breeders, BYBs, and puppy-mills. It has yet to show up in working lines. The challenge of this study is most breeders ad rescues would have these pups humanly euthanized as soon as their deformities become apparent as their future quality of life would be questionable.

carmspack: Thank you, I will keep looking into it. Perhaps he just prefers working homes, and got the impression mine would not be. The questionable dogs are certified police dogs, and comments on behaviour from a person who used to work with them and who's opinion on dogs I value. I don't want to go into any details for confidentiality reasons.
12-04-2012 11:51 AM
Andaka
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The theory is that Boomer's condition may be attributed to the sloped-back look of show (especially USA) GSDs so I do tend to look for dogs with a straight top-line. *ducks to dodge the flying rocks*
If it was due to the sloped back, then more GSD's with sloped backs would have it.
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