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09-01-2014 12:23 AM
dogfaeries
Limited registration vs. full registration

If you think you might want to show this dog in conformation, then pay what your breeder wants for full registration. Also, the breeders I know sell their puppies on limited registration, sometimes with spay/neuter contracts, UNLESS you want to show. I guess it helps cut down on people breeding their pets. At least that's the theory.
09-01-2014 12:20 AM
dogfaeries Also, I do show in conformation for fun. Plenty of people get championships on their dogs, and then never breed them.
09-01-2014 12:15 AM
dogfaeries Guys, it is perfectly normal in the ASL world to charge less for limited registration. You are being sold a dog that is not considered a show prospect. Some breeders charge the same no matter what, but others charge less for pets with limited registration. It doesn't mean they are a "bad" breeder.

You need to have full registration to show in AKC conformation and also to register a litter if you breed your dog. I show, and I have full registration.
08-31-2014 08:07 PM
lhczth Some people enjoy conformation showing even when they do not breed. If you want to show in conformation than pay the extra money. If it isn't your thing than don't.
08-31-2014 06:23 PM
Chris Wild There is no cost difference in the different registrations with AKC. Both limited and full cost the same as far as AKC is concerned.
08-31-2014 05:43 PM
Cassidy's Mom
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This all makes me a bit curious about the breeders intentions. Am I naive in thinking that the raised price is actually to cut the "pet pup" owners a deal on spaying/neutering and the added cost is to discourage people that have no business in breeding from breeding? Or is it just a ploy for extra money?
IMO? It's door #2. The puppy you buy either is or is not of breeding quality, regardless of which kind of registration you get. If she's pet quality, perhaps with a minor conformation fault or two that will affect a show rating but not prevent her from being an excellent companion dog, then you shouldn't even be offered the option of paying more for full registration. The breeder *should* only be offering full registration for those puppies she's feels warrants it, and only selling them to people who are interested in seriously showing with perhaps an intent to breed, if everything works out. Again, IMO.

I don't have a problem with a breeder singling out part of the litter as showable or breedable and charging a little more for those pups vs pups more suitable as pets, but that's not what she's doing. She's saying you buy this particular puppy with limited registration and pay this amount, or buy that very same pup with full registration and pay a higher amount. Even if you do pay the higher amount, you could choose to spay her - full registration does not prevent you from doing so.
08-31-2014 05:34 PM
Cassidy's Mom
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The breeder is charging an extra $300 for full registration. So basically for an extra $300 I'm only getting the option to breed (no interest), the option to participate in a dog show (interested) and the option to choose whether to spay or not (a topic I'm still researching).
Wow! You could certainly participate in conformation showing just for fun, but the purpose of showing is to determine breed worthiness, based on how closely the dog meets the standard. What's the point of proving your dog is an excellent example of the breed if you have no intention of breeding her? There are a lot of other fun activities you could enjoy with her that don't require spending an extra $300 for full registration and breeding rights.

https://www.akc.org/events/conformation/faqs.cfm

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General Questions
What is the purpose of dog shows?
For each breed the AKC registers, there is a breed standard which is a word description of the perfect dog of that breed. Standards describe the mental and physical characteristics that allow each breed to perform the function for which they were originated. The standard describes the dog's looks, movement and temperament. Breeders involved with each breed are attempting to produce a dog that most closely conforms to the breed standard. In this respect, dog shows are not unlike cat shows, bird shows, cattle shows, horse shows, etc. In fact, for almost every species bred by man there are competitions among breeders. AKC approved judges examine the dogs and place them in accordance to how close each dog compares with their mental image of the "perfect" dog as described in the breed's official standard.
You can choose to spay or not, (depending on your contract) regardless of the type of registration. That's a lot of extra money to pay for something you don't "need" or maybe even want.
08-31-2014 04:29 PM
Mikki This all makes me a bit curious about the breeders intentions. Am I naive in thinking that the raised price is actually to cut the "pet pup" owners a deal on spaying/neutering and the added cost is to discourage people that have no business in breeding from breeding? Or is it just a ploy for extra money?
08-31-2014 04:26 PM
Mikki The breeder is charging an extra $300 for full registration. So basically for an extra $300 I'm only getting the option to breed (no interest), the option to participate in a dog show (interested) and the option to choose whether to spay or not (a topic I'm still researching).
08-31-2014 02:52 PM
Cassidy's Mom Here's the fee schedule: https://www.akc.org/reg/fee_schedule.cfm

It's $30 to register a dog, doesn't say anything about a price difference between limited and full, although it does cost more for late registration. How much more is the breeder charging for full registration?

I agree with middle and Chris, there's no reason to pay more for the same dog with full vs limited registration. And as Chris mentioned, the only thing you can't do with limited registration is conformation showing, you can still participate in any sport or activity you like. I've never had a dog with full AKC registration, and since I have no interest in breeding it hasn't mattered a bit. Halo has jumped in dock diving competitions, and she's been racing in flyball for over 2 years.
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