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09-01-2014 06:40 PM
Shade My poodle (12 lb and pure white) has had the Lepto vaccine each year with no side effects. Delgado has had no side effects either, and since they are around wildlife often and hiking offleash I'm going to continue vaccinating for it. I've talked it over with my vet and I'm happy with my decision, neither dog has contracted the disease either so maybe I'm just very blessed or the vaccine is doing it's job. Who knows

I don't push the vaccine either way on other people, I really believe it should be a decision between you and your vet. Weigh the benefits and risks yourself and make the decision.
09-01-2014 06:33 PM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by RocketDog View Post
It surely must all be a conspiracy then, if every vet has said 'four'!!


Why are you calling vets everywhere? I personally have known two out of the three vets at my clinic for 22 years. I've been going there since I got my first big dog at age 21. They have even come to my home to put my animals to sleep when that day has come. I've had that relationship longer than I've been married. I trust what they say. I make my own decisions, I don't blindly follow what they suggest for everything, but I sure as heck value their input.

As should most people trust or find a vet they can trust, rather than getting all their info from an internet forum. (Not to suggest you).
The vets in my area really aren't seeing the cases, but they all agree that it has spiked in the City of Chicago. I just called vets in different counties then my own to try to get an idea where it's showing up. I couldn't find any websites with the data so I just called. My own personal vet also stated it's becoming more common in the City. My vet is about a half hour away, so I just checked in all directions, yes I probably need to get a life. I just need to do my own research before I make a decision for my own dogs. The vets in this area are still not recommending the shot and most are still shying away from it or being very vague about it at best.
09-01-2014 06:00 PM
RocketDog It surely must all be a conspiracy then, if every vet has said 'four'!!


Why are you calling vets everywhere? I personally have known two out of the three vets at my clinic for 22 years. I've been going there since I got my first big dog at age 21. They have even come to my home to put my animals to sleep when that day has come. I've had that relationship longer than I've been married. I trust what they say. I make my own decisions, I don't blindly follow what they suggest for everything, but I sure as heck value their input.

As should most people trust or find a vet they can trust, rather than getting all their info from an internet forum. (Not to suggest you).
09-01-2014 05:53 PM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by RocketDog View Post
I'm the one who actually mentioned 'four cases'. You never mentioned anything else in the other posts (unless I missed something) about cases at all. Interesting that you used that in your analogy. Of course I would take that literally.
In post #11 I mentioned several cases, which the number was four for my friend to. I apologize if you thought I was throwing the number out there based on your post. It in fact is the number she heard and the same number I have been hearing when I call vets everywhere.
09-01-2014 05:46 PM
RocketDog I'm the one who actually mentioned 'four cases'. You never mentioned anything else in the other posts (unless I missed something) about cases at all. Interesting that you used that in your analogy. Of course I would take that literally.
09-01-2014 05:44 PM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by RocketDog View Post
My vet confirmed that out of the 4 cases of confirmed Lepto they have treated, none of the dogs were vaxd. Please make sure you reference you are talking about your clinic/vet; not in general.
Well every vet I have called has not been able to confirm that, neither was my friends vet. Since I have contacted more then several vets on this I will keep it as a general until I can find one that can and will. Thanks for your input, I'm sure others understood what I was saying and didn't take it as literal as you and are able to confirm that info on their own with their own vets.
09-01-2014 05:39 PM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
I tracked Karlo today for the first time since his nightmare began. I know my fear is crazy, and he is fairly immune to the common strains.
The track today was 'contaminated' with a family of sandhill cranes, lol....what a distraction when they appeared at the end of the track right by the reward. Then they flew off, circled and landed in another part of the property. Karlo could care less about the chuckit reward, he was interested in the scent they left behind.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater
He is looking good and alert
09-01-2014 05:37 PM
RocketDog
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Originally Posted by llombardo View Post
My concerns as well. There are over 230 strains broken down into 8 or so groups and I would be more confident if the vaccine had more research attached. As dangerous as it can be(the disease) one would think they would have more info(on the vaccine and coverage) and it wouldn't be so vague. I do believe it can help with some of the strains, but they can't guarantee that either. The vets do not say we have had four cases and out if those 4 this many were vaccinated, those numbers could make the world of difference for people on the fence about giving or not giving this vaccine. I still don't know what I'm going to do with mine.

My vet confirmed that out of the 4 cases of confirmed Lepto they have treated, none of the dogs were vaxd. Please make sure you reference you are talking about your clinic/vet; not in general.
09-01-2014 05:35 PM
RocketDog As I understand it, as with most vaccines that have multiple strains, the 4 way one covers the strains responsible for the majority of cases in dogs. I'd rather have 20% risk than 100% risk. The decision to vax is personal but should be based on science, not scare tactics.
09-01-2014 05:33 PM
llombardo
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Originally Posted by Saphire View Post
My concern with the Lepto vaccine are not limited to the possible reactions but the fact that there are 2 vaccines available...so i have been told. One covers 2 strains and the other covers 4 strains. There are I believe 10+ strains of Lepto. So if I vaccinate for it I risk a reaction...deadly for some and my dog still isn't necessarily covered. I just can't see myself risking my dogs health with a vaccine that covers less than 40% of the Lepto strains.
My concerns as well. There are over 230 strains broken down into 8 or so groups and I would be more confident if the vaccine had more research attached. As dangerous as it can be(the disease) one would think they would have more info(on the vaccine and coverage) and it wouldn't be so vague. I do believe it can help with some of the strains, but they can't guarantee that either. The vets do not say we have had four cases and out if those 4 this many were vaccinated, those numbers could make the world of difference for people on the fence about giving or not giving this vaccine. I still don't know what I'm going to do with mine.
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