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08-28-2014 09:35 AM
blackshep
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Originally Posted by gsdsd View Post
When do you recommend to start with organ?
And what is best as protine thanks
Ill make sure to chek out that site
check out the link David posted, but most people start with chicken (some start with skin off initially, since fat can cause loose stool). After a couple of weeks, you can start adding some organ meat and build it to the correct amount if they are handling it ok.

then you start adding a second protein source, then add more protein sources as you go. You eventually want a good variety, some fish (freeze wild caught pacific salmon for at least a month), I feed sardines.

Remember, kibble is balanced per cup, raw is balanced over time with variety, variety is important.
08-26-2014 11:10 PM
gsdsd
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Originally Posted by David Winners View Post
Seriously, check out Welcome to the Raw Dog Ranch

All your questions are answered there.
Right away thanks
08-26-2014 10:07 PM
David Winners Seriously, check out www.rawdogranch.com

All your questions are answered there.
08-26-2014 05:49 PM
gsdsd
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I mostly did chicken quarters or sections of whole chicken (organs removed) for a couple weeks. So my first couple weeks would be a chicken quarter for breakfast and a chicken quarter for dinner (each was about a pound) and some days he would get a half or quarter of a whole chicken for breakfast/dinner depending on how much the bird weighed. When we had consistent stool for a week or two, I determined how much liver I would need (say 6 ounces) and would add it in an ounce at a time. The first two days of organ would just be an ounce of liver in with regular meals, then two ounces for two days, then three ounces for two days. You can take it slower or faster depending on how your pup does. Mine took a bit of getting used to the liver. Too quick, and I would cause tar poop. So we took it slow and now he can handle a pretty large variation of organ.

Oh, and for supplements, mine gets a garlic flea/tick preventative, fish oil, cold pressed coconut oil, a probiotic, and occasionally some plain yogurt or goat milk. He also gets snacks of different fruits and vegetables. They're not a regular part of his diet, but he loves frozen carrots and apples and mixed berry stuffed Kongs.
Awesome pm sent
How do I know how much I need of each meat ? And also how much shoulf I feed him ? Thanks
08-26-2014 05:31 PM
gsdsd
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Originally Posted by blackshep View Post
raw dog ranch is awesome!!

I think your proportions are out. Start with just muscle meat and bone for the first bit and gradually add in organ meat. 15% is too high in organ meat. Stick with one protein for a bit before adding others.

I found this helpful too Bone And Food Values For Raw Feeding Dogs | Dogs Naturally Magazine

Good luck!
When do you recommend to start with organ?
And what is best as protine thanks
Ill make sure to chek out that site
08-26-2014 04:43 PM
lauren43 Yea I think too much too soon.

I started my boy with just chicken for two weeks. If you are doing two meals a day then one can be bone in and one bone out...or do both with bone. But to get solid stool I always start with more bone in the beginning. After two weeks with good poo I add turkey (one day turkey next day chicken) if we are still good after two more weeks I add pork, then I continue this way until we've introed all the different meats I plan to feed.

At the end of all this I add organ meat. It's very rich and needs to be done with care and slowly...
08-26-2014 04:18 PM
Pax8
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Originally Posted by gsdsd View Post
So should I just feed him chicken meat and chicken neck? or can I buy a whole chicken and give him some meat and bone like drum sticks and back ?
Will it be to much If I ask you for a meal plan example please .
Im just scared that I wont be giving hime enough vitamins or will he be healthy with just raw ??
What do you feed your baby for vitamins ?
I just want a healthy boy and strong bone to prevent hip dysplasia. Thank you very much
I mostly did chicken quarters or sections of whole chicken (organs removed) for a couple weeks. So my first couple weeks would be a chicken quarter for breakfast and a chicken quarter for dinner (each was about a pound) and some days he would get a half or quarter of a whole chicken for breakfast/dinner depending on how much the bird weighed. When we had consistent stool for a week or two, I determined how much liver I would need (say 6 ounces) and would add it in an ounce at a time. The first two days of organ would just be an ounce of liver in with regular meals, then two ounces for two days, then three ounces for two days. You can take it slower or faster depending on how your pup does. Mine took a bit of getting used to the liver. Too quick, and I would cause tar poop. So we took it slow and now he can handle a pretty large variation of organ.

Oh, and for supplements, mine gets a garlic flea/tick preventative, fish oil, cold pressed coconut oil, a probiotic, and occasionally some plain yogurt or goat milk. He also gets snacks of different fruits and vegetables. They're not a regular part of his diet, but he loves frozen carrots and apples and mixed berry stuffed Kongs.
08-26-2014 03:58 PM
Bear L One of my dogs used to not take liver and green tripe well - it will just get runny stools so I avoided that for a while. Try different meat / organs / muscle meat to see what works best for your dog. Also maybe cut down on the organs or muscle meat and see if that suits him better (or none at all to start) and once he's adjusted then slowly increase (and decrease whenever he gets runny stools).

Try raw eggs for variety.

Your dog should be old enough to eat any part of the chickens now so you can buy the whole chicken.

For supplements - an easy one to try is some cold pressed extra virgin coconut oil by the tablespoon (just eyeball it) and put over his food. They sell it cheap at Costco. Sometimes I grind up veggies from my yard for the dogs. They also eat the fruits from my yard - their favorite. My dog picks plums off the tree and strawberries from the patch. They also love bananas. Good to try a variety.
08-26-2014 03:36 PM
gsdsd
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Originally Posted by blackshep View Post
raw dog ranch is awesome!!

I think your proportions are out. Start with just muscle meat and bone for the first bit and gradually add in organ meat. 15% is too high in organ meat. Stick with one protein for a bit before adding others.

I found this helpful too Bone And Food Values For Raw Feeding Dogs | Dogs Naturally Magazine

Good luck!
When do you recommend to start with organ?
And what is best as protine thanks
Ill make sure to chek out that site
08-26-2014 03:33 PM
gsdsd
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Originally Posted by Pax8 View Post
I don't think the problem was doing a cold switch. I and many others have done cold switches and had no problem.

It looks like where you messed up was WAY too much liver too soon. I start my dogs out on just muscle meat and bone until they have consistent stool for about a week, then start adding in the liver a little bit to a time until I've worked them up to 10% liver over the course of a week. It sounds like it was just too much way too quickly. When you start this time, don't even add liver or organ until you have consistent stool with just muscle/bone. And then add the organs slowly.

Finally, stick with one protein to start, typically chicken. After you have a good diet going of chicken meat/bone/organ THEN try adding in new proteins slowly and one at a time.
So should I just feed him chicken meat and chicken neck? or can I buy a whole chicken and give him some meat and bone like drum sticks and back ?
Will it be to much If I ask you for a meal plan example please .
Im just scared that I wont be giving hime enough vitamins or will he be healthy with just raw ??
What do you feed your baby for vitamins ?
I just want a healthy boy and strong bone to prevent hip dysplasia. Thank you very much
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