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08-27-2014 09:21 PM
lauren43 You can call it whatever you like!
08-27-2014 01:40 PM
wyoung2153 Thank you guys for the advice. I watched the video too with no sound but I get the idea.

I think what might work for us.. is Castlemaid's method.. mostly because I kind of started the muzzle hold already. I'm gonna give that a shot and see if he picks it up.

How would you suggest the take it? I have jsut been holding it infront of his mouth and saying "hold" and then he takes it and drops it. Am I actually training the "take it" command?
08-27-2014 12:43 PM
Castlemaid To keep him from dropping the ball, you may have to physically hold his mouth - Just gently cup his muzzle with only as much force as needed to keep him from spitting out the ball - only a second at first, then work up from there in very short increments.

I would also break down the Take and the Hold into two seperate commands - right now, he is learning that "Hold" means take something and spit it out.

Take is 'take it" and Hold is "hold it".
08-27-2014 12:41 PM
DJEtzel This video shows reverse luring pretty well. I don't have sound, so I only watched it.

08-27-2014 12:35 PM
lauren43 Here's what I would have done. He knows how to drop it because that's what you've trained x1000 lol.

I don't know if you use a clicker but a marker works fine. Pick whatever you you plan to use. And either hold it out in your hand or place it on the floor. Mark and reward even a slight look at it. Then mark and reward touching the ball. Then mark and reward an opened mouth touch (you may have to get him riled up for this). Finally mark and reward picking up the ball in his mouth. Then vary the time. So for a while just mark milli-seconds. But then add duration. Perhaps count one-two mark treat, then the next just one mark treat, then one-two-three-four mark and treat, varying the time on every hold. Once he realizes what you want though, this will probably go quick for him as he sounds like a dog that understands cues quickly!
08-27-2014 11:45 AM
wyoung2153 Yeah I just researched it, lightly, and everything I read says it's does real damage for heavy chewers... and maybe a very slight affect on one that just retrieves the ball. So I can't imagine that's why Titan's teeth have worn.. unless, like Steve said, he has softer enamel.. add the tennis ball to the frozen raw bones and we might have something.
08-27-2014 11:40 AM
Steve Strom There's some thought that the glue effects it also, with the tennis balls, but either way the material is just a mild abrasive. Just enough to cause some wear and then some dogs have a softer enamel,,,,,,
08-27-2014 11:34 AM
Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
I don't know either, I just know my dog's teeth are filed down probably from rocks and he didn't chew on them, we just played ball with them. so he'd hold them in his mouth. his canines are visibly worn.

so passing on the warning. why take a chance. use chuck it rubber balls. they're amazing for many things.
Interesting, I did notice Titan's teeth have worn over the years. But the tennis ball never popped into my mind. He doesn't chew anything accept what I give him and I assumed it was the frozen raw bones I had given him over the years so I stopped with those.

I only use Tennis Balls because they are super cheap in bulk, lol. But I may have to rethink that.

Originally Posted by DJEtzel View Post
I shaped the hold with a reverse lure with my Border Collie, and am planning on doing the same thing with my GSD pup.

eta; the regular tennis balls can wear down teeth enamel, this is true. "dog" tennis balls are made of a different material and are much safer.
Can you explain how?? Or do you have a good source? I am really curious about this.. since we play with tennis balls a lot.

Originally Posted by Steve Strom View Post
Whats a reverse lure?
and yes, this ^^
08-27-2014 11:31 AM
Steve Strom Whats a reverse lure?
08-27-2014 11:21 AM
DJEtzel I shaped the hold with a reverse lure with my Border Collie, and am planning on doing the same thing with my GSD pup.

eta; the regular tennis balls can wear down teeth enamel, this is true. "dog" tennis balls are made of a different material and are much safer.
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