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11-17-2014 07:55 PM
stearnsbd
Hip/Elbow Displasia

I would encourage ALL to read the latest findings on HD in the Dog Naturally Magazine [back in the Sept 14 issue].

There is a clear link to early Spay/Nutering of K9's.

This interupts the growth cycle of the long bones and has many other effects that are being studied.

Do your research... Follow known breeding standard and practices. For GSD there is a huge volume of information. Use know good sources and if you want to be a breeder... do it to improve the breed not to make money.

Passion for the breed will bring very good results and very good results will bring the right people to your door!
07-16-2014 07:54 PM
wolfstraum Local vets are not radiologists. Extremely bad hips are obvious to any vet as are absolutely perfect hips.

As others said, the positioning leaves something to be desired. BUT overall, I would not call these bad hips. Send them to OFA (offa.org) and have them evaluated.

GWK4667 - General practice vets are just that...not specialists. I beg anyone to explain how a severely dysplastic dog got that way from food. Cow's milk is not good for dogs, goats milk is better and pups should be weaned off of milk by 6 weeks old and onto good quality food. Letting a pup eat as much as it wants for 10 minutes could have some pups eating way too much food.... do you OFA your breeding stock? How many of the dogs you sell get their hips done? Many mild and moderately dysplastic dogs show no signs, and if people do not have them evaluated, then you really have no data to back up that you have not had HD in 40+ years....

Lee
07-16-2014 07:43 PM
GWK4667 I have been raising silver gray GSDs since my discharge from the USMC in 1971

I have had the same primary Vet all this time ( I know he and I are getting old ) and his opinion is a lot of hip dysplasia is a result of new owners feeding puppy food with to much energy that encourages muscle growth faster than the bones can keep up with. Some of these expensive dog foods can make a pup act like a grandchild on Mt. Dew, bouncing off the walls and just having too much energy and getting into trouble do to the in ability to relax and concentrate on the task at hand.

I encourage my new owners to limit the food to what they eat in a 10 minute time period twice a day and I encourage them to feed a good quality adult food with a cup of 2% milk poured over the food.

I am not a puppy mill ( I normally raise 3 litters a year from my 3 females ) but with apx. 25 pups a year we have not had a problem with hip dysplasia yet.

We also check into the ancestry of any dogs brought into our pack.

Back to your problem, get another opinion and check the ancestry of your dog and any other dogs you are thinking of acquiring.
07-16-2014 03:38 PM
VTcoach I think the hips look pretty good. I have seen much worse looking x-rays for dogs that look, run and gait just fine.
07-14-2014 05:34 PM
Tina Did your vet send the pics to OFA? It costs you about $40 and their vets review the xrays and send you their determination
07-14-2014 12:43 AM
stearnsbd Some of the therapies you may want to look into are: Prolotherapy and Sonic Pulse therapy. Both have had success at treating HD, joint disorders, arthritis and ligament tears and strains in the K9 and Equine world.
07-14-2014 12:39 AM
stearnsbd Since the dog is 3 years old...
If he is altered then you should take heed to the findings of the most recent studies on HD.
See Dog Naturally online mag. Two issues back for the finding of a direct link to HD and early spay and neutering. Plus other significant links resulting from altering a K9 younger that 2 years old.

By the way... the x-ray was not taken correctly. It is a little off on the right side, viewed, or the dogs left side. If you look on line at the OFA website you will find good information about how the x-ray should be set up. It is also in one of the issues of Dog Naturally.
07-12-2014 11:59 AM
dbailey@nl.rogers.com
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I bought a GSD and when I brought him to a trainer he noticed that he was walking funny and told us to get his hips checked out. I brought him to my vet and he told me he had minor dysplasia. So I took the dog back and now the breeders vet says the dog has great hips and there is no problem with them (Imagine that). The trainer and the vet I brought him to has no reason to lie. I would like some other peoples opinion. Should I believe the breeders vet or should I get a 3rd opinion
There is clearly a difference from left to right in the x-ray. Looks to me that the left leg should be causing you issue. I'd certainly seek a third opinion. Perhaps at the expense of the breeder.
07-11-2014 05:09 PM
BobCl Speaking as an interested amateur that has nursed a GSD through severe hip dysplasia, it's great that you're concerned. Our pup had no sockets and at the end was on three different pain medications plus monthly shots and supplements.

To my eye your dog looks wonderful, but as others have asked, how do you plan to use your dog? If he's for breeding, absolutely get him cleared by the OFA. Otherwise, if he's intact, have him neutered. Please.
07-11-2014 12:43 PM
Jax08 You bought him as an adult? Why were the hips not checked prior to sale?

Or did you buy him as a puppy?

Do you have a contract?
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