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07-08-2014 12:09 AM
workingk9_Ohio
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Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
Lol and what was her reasoning?

I'm actually very interested now in why this rule exists (using commands in one language only) since the commands are not unified anyway, so let's say if I did use Japanese I can come up with my own set of words for the commands anyway. So why does it matter which language I stick to?

Lol google didn't help
She didn't want anyone else to be able to handle her dog or tell it what to do. Pretty much the same reason I mix up my commands/languages. Not that it would truly matter since the dog should really only follow the commands of its owner/handler anyway. I had imported trained dogs from Hungary and Germany so I had been used to using those commands and prefer certain ones (ul, which is Hungarian for 'sit') I prefer because "sitz" sounds similar to "platz" but I pretty much use German for the rest except "wait"

Carey & Jetta
07-07-2014 10:17 PM
lalachka
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Originally Posted by workingk9_Ohio View Post
LOL, back in the early 90's I was training at a club in Alaska and the girl had created all her own commands--- "chair" for sit, "rug" for down, and so on.....



Carey & Jetta

Lol and what was her reasoning?

I'm actually very interested now in why this rule exists (using commands in one language only) since the commands are not unified anyway, so let's say if I did use Japanese I can come up with my own set of words for the commands anyway. So why does it matter which language I stick to?

Lol google didn't help
07-07-2014 10:08 PM
workingk9_Ohio
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Originally Posted by Steve Strom View Post
Hmm, I don't know Lala. Maybe in the judges notes? Are you going to do IPO with her Carey? Besides the commands, I'd think about getting rid of the hand signals if you are.

I hadn't thought too far ahead-- was going to do competitive AKC obedience, and if she's got the "stuff" for Schutzhund, was going to give that a go. I haven't trained with any working clubs in almost 25 years so I'm really rusty and don't even know what's offered around here. I guess I need to look into that. I will be taking Jetta to the SchH club in the next few weeks for an evaluation and then I'll go from there. She isn't as socialized as I would like so I am not sure if she will pass the eval for SchH?

Carey & Jetta
07-07-2014 10:05 PM
workingk9_Ohio
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Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
Why would it matter which language you use?
And do they really know all commands in every single language?
What if you used 'butt on the floor' in Japanese for a sit?

Or is there a set of commands and a set of languages that can be used?

Still don't get the reasoning behind one language

LOL, back in the early 90's I was training at a club in Alaska and the girl had created all her own commands--- "chair" for sit, "rug" for down, and so on.....

Carey & Jetta
07-07-2014 10:03 PM
workingk9_Ohio
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Originally Posted by wolfstraum View Post
Nice looking girl! Most GSDs, in my experience, would rather be house dogs at least part of the time, than be full time kennel dogs.

One caution on the commands - I am pretty sure one of the more recent rule changes in IPO required consistency in the language that you use when you trial. I use German for obedience work, and more casual English in the house....my Belgian import was trained in Flemish, but also seemed to respond to German - ie would out about the same for 'los' or 'aus'....

Where are you in Ohio and what club are you going to train in? We have members here in some of the clubs.

Lee
Thanks Lee. She definitely LOVES being a housedog. I have to really lure her outside even to go potty! I think she's afraid I will put her out in the kennel and leave her there All my dogs are housedogs, though, so she will become secure in that with time.

I did not know that about the consistency in commands. Is that the same for SchH? The club I'm going to look at is the Southwestern Ohio SchH Club-- a fairly new club, from what I understand. They just had their first trial in June. They are really close to me (Dayton area) so I'm really excited about that --- last time I had a working dog, the closest SchH club was 2 or 3 hours away.

Carey & Jetta
07-07-2014 08:47 PM
Steve Strom Hmm, I don't know Lala. Maybe in the judges notes? Are you going to do IPO with her Carey? Besides the commands, I'd think about getting rid of the hand signals if you are.
07-07-2014 08:40 PM
lalachka
Hi there, new GSD owner

So do the judges actually memorize the commands the handlers used the first time around and then make sure same ones are used?

I don't get how it's enforced and I don't get the reasoning behind it. But I guess that's ot.
07-07-2014 08:36 PM
Steve Strom The actual rule says:

"Handlers may use their choice of language but all commands must be consistent in the same language for the same exercise in all phases of the trial"

That sounds like if you use platz in ob you have to in A&C too, but you could use heel in all 3 too. Sorry WK Ohio, I only use one so I never really had to think about that.
07-07-2014 08:22 PM
lalachka Why would it matter which language you use?
And do they really know all commands in every single language?
What if you used 'butt on the floor' in Japanese for a sit?

Or is there a set of commands and a set of languages that can be used?

Still don't get the reasoning behind one language
07-07-2014 08:18 PM
Steve Strom
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One caution on the commands - I am pretty sure one of the more recent rule changes in IPO required consistency in the language that you use when you trial
Twice I've seen judges comment on that in the critique, using 1 language. Both times it was before the latest new rules. Club trials, I don't think they took any points for it though.
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