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07-07-2014 04:04 PM
Longfisher
Malleability

The remarkable thing about GSDs is that they're so malleable and can be trained to be as social with humans as you like them to be.

For me, my dog was intended to protect my tiny, Chinese-American wife as we've had some problems with racists here in Texas. So, we didn't socialize him at all until her was older.

True to form, the puppy and then adolescent dog (He's now 18 months plus) plainly didn't like people for the first year. He was suspicious and reactive. And, that's just how we wanted him to be.

Over time, we trained him to not react on his own by having him sit, lay down and stepping on the leash and repeating the world "easy". Over time he came to know that meant that I believed the person didn't represent a threat.

But at the same time we taught him commands to alert and to bark and we tried to teach him to show his teeth (no luck, really). Now, he knows he needs to take our lead about people before he reacts.

Just the way we want him.

LF
07-07-2014 10:54 AM
Nikitta Maybe she just knew the air conditioner lady was selling a crappy air conditioner. LOL Most people don't approach my dogs to pet them but Xerxes loves children and had a blast at the nursing home when I took him.
07-07-2014 10:37 AM
Athena'sMom I am usually 100% okay with kids petting my shepherds if they ASK first. All the kids in my neighborhood know Athena and Sinister. But last night I had a 13 year old girl just walk into my yard with and screamed, oh I love your dogs. Scared the crap out of me I jumped out of shock and Sinister went on alert and barked at the girl. It is never okay with me when someone does not respect me or my dogs. Sinister is a 80lb 7 1/2 month old. he is still young and is still in training. I regret now letting all the kids get comfortable with my dogs because there are those kids who do not respect boundaries. It is a give and take. My dogs love people whom are welcomed in our home or are invited to pet on a walk. But kids especially do not know how to properly approach dogs.
07-06-2014 11:12 PM
volcano I specifically asked for a dog who loved all people, from a litter of Czech lines. I got what I wanted. Funny thing is I walked her in home depot last week, and got approached by a saleslady trying to sell me an air conditioner. Apache barked that lady away after I told her no. Shes never done that before but I guess shes maturing.
07-06-2014 11:08 PM
selzer I did not read the article. I hear too much about leerburg and don't think they are my thing.

I let people pet my puppies, but I reserve the right to refuse.

1. People including children must ask first. If they do not ask then they do not pet.

2. If I think that the pup has had enough today, I just say no. I may offend someone, but I don't own them, and I am not responsible for them, and I do not have to live with them for the next 14 years.

3. If someone has their hands full, several kids, etc, No.

4. If there is a bunch of kids, or if I don't feel that the kids look capable of following simple instructions, I say no.

Most of the time, I let people pet the puppy, and they are all into me. In fact, they are if anything too attached to me. Letting strangers pet them has caused no conflict of interest from the dogs' point of view. They know who is master of the food barrels.
07-06-2014 09:20 PM
lauren43
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Originally Posted by Liesje View Post
The only reasons I don't let strangers pet my puppies are 1) I'm actually in a hurry and can't stop and 2) I need the puppy to learn that not every person is going to stop and interact, lots of people are afraid of dogs (even puppies) or just do not like them. I like my puppies to be receptive to interaction and be social, but let me call the shots and not always be pulling to go over and greet a new person.

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07-06-2014 09:18 PM
Liesje The only reasons I don't let strangers pet my puppies are 1) I'm actually in a hurry and can't stop and 2) I need the puppy to learn that not every person is going to stop and interact, lots of people are afraid of dogs (even puppies) or just do not like them. I like my puppies to be receptive to interaction and be social, but let me call the shots and not always be pulling to go over and greet a new person.
07-06-2014 06:10 PM
lauren43
Who pets your dog? --Leerburg

I don't think you read what I wrote correctly. If you have a dog that is not comfortable with attention from everyone then following Leerburgs' protocol is probably the way to go.

By cowering I simply meant a fearful dog.

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07-06-2014 05:59 PM
Chip18
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if you have a dog cowering behind you, your simply not helping them by forcing socialization on them.




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That's any interesting spin??


Leerburgh has "some" solutions that seem to be a bit extreme... dogs and babies/kids strikes me as one and Lou Castle has some "issues" with Leerburghs' work with E collars but that aside, with "Who Pets my Puppy or Dog" Ed Frawley has it nailed!

If you don't have a dog "with people issues" then no harm is done. Meet and greet till the fur is rubbed off your dog by folks.

If you do have a dog with "people issues" then letting folks pet him and "guessing" he's OK??? Good lucky with that, my guy shwoed me early on that he was not a big people person...fine with me.

He doesn't have to like anyone but he does did to know how to behave around people. That's what I taught with this approach and that is what he does!

When I did allow someone to pet him, I turned and looked at him because I knew what he looked like when he was doing fine and I steeped aside and allowed him to be greeted he was fine..did not really care but no issues.

Other dogs the vet office and kids..no issues.

For me the "Who pets' thing is a no brainier. It's how I will train all my dogs going forward.

It's really no different than training a service dog. A service dog that wants to meet and greet everyone he sees is not of much value.

A family pet that thinks everyone is his friend, is very likely to walk or drive off with a friendly stranger, if not well trained!

My Boxer would have been like that but for "oops can't leave the yard!'" My GSD yeah he's not walking off with anyone save me and my wife.

And cowering behind?? You can call it cowering, I call it discipline. I protect my dog if a dog charges us I tell my dog to stay..I take point, I'm dealing with the attacker, "not" my dog and the problem dog!

So 'Who pets" has been Dog tested and dog approved by me and Rocky, case in point:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...my-dog-do.html

He did just fine!
07-06-2014 03:05 PM
lalachka
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Originally Posted by Stosh View Post
The point is that the dog should only get attention and affection from you and if everyone that comes up to the dog gives her a pet, she'll pay attention to others instead of you. In his opinion, the dog should be uninterested in everyone else. I wish I hadn't forced my dog into accepting pets from strangers. He was giving me clear signs but I didn't realize it at the time. I was taking the AKC Star Puppy class and was told that 'socializing' meant my dog had to be petted by everyone. If I had it to do over again, I would do more of the Leerburg way
Me too. Everything I did with my dog was wrong.
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