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08-19-2014 10:41 PM
RubyTuesday
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and the ones that get bashed will happily try to sue anyone who posts against them...
There are breeders that have been bashed on this site with impunity. At times mods participated in the threads. Nobody was sued. Nor did the breeders threaten to sue.

Of course, there was a breeder who had an unflattering, but well documented, article posted on another board. Said breeder lurked relentlessly on the offending board & considered banning the owner of that board. Despite the drama & acrimony I don't think the breeder ever entertained a lawsuit. (Which would have gone nowhere. Truth ain't libel.)

I could have requested the removal of several threads but I didn't because seeing a breeder's temperament is important to me. Imo, those breeders of strong & correct temperament will not come unglued at a haranguing pack of boardland malcontents.

I'm also intrigued by the transparency exhibited by various breeders...Scratch the surface & the incidence of hd in some widely touted breeders is (at best) meh. Ditto Mega E, longevity, temperament & structural anomalies.

Regardless of the double standard regarding 'breeder bashing' anyone seeking a GSD/pup should thoroughly investigate breeders of interest & closely scrutinize all claims made. Vague little testimonies about stacking the deck deserve a more in-depth response. So many of us stacked the deck. In what ways did that work with a particular breeder? In what ways did it fail?
07-26-2014 08:36 PM
selzer PDB is Pedigree Database, which has a forum as well.
07-26-2014 08:28 PM
Nook&I
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
and the ones that get bashed will happily try to sue anyone who posts against them...who'd want that liability? Even PDB is slowly controlling their forums, but still get away with quite a bit.
Code=when we read "I sent you a pm" that usually means there is some negative opinion that can't be shared publicly.



Sorry what does PDB mean?

I was actually just coming back to write if people make negatives remarks they must supply proof because Breeders probably threaten to sue however I still think moderators should not allow positive reviews either.

Thanks for heads up. Honestly over the years I have debated saying something publicly but I will take the PM system into consideration
07-26-2014 08:08 PM
onyx'girl
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I know i am new here and this probably wont go over well but the fact that you only let positive reviews go up about breeders really questions the credibility of this site.

People deserve to know the truth or at the very least dont allow people to post positive reviews. A message board about a breed we all love getting 100% positive publicity......Some people would pay a lot of money for that type of marketing
and the ones that get bashed will happily try to sue anyone who posts against them...who'd want that liability? Even PDB is slowly controlling their forums, but still get away with quite a bit.
Code=when we read "I sent you a pm" that usually means there is some negative opinion that can't be shared publicly.
07-26-2014 08:07 PM
Nook&I
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
Send the dog back or he can live a painfilled life...hmmmm.
You are missing the point of what his intentions were. I know you love that little guy so if you send him back we are going to kill him.
07-26-2014 08:04 PM
Nook&I I know i am new here and this probably wont go over well but the fact that you only let positive reviews go up about breeders really questions the credibility of this site.

People deserve to know the truth or at the very least dont allow people to post positive reviews. A message board about a breed we all love getting 100% positive publicity......Some people would pay a lot of money for that type of marketing
07-26-2014 08:01 PM
Nook&I
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Originally Posted by RubyTuesday View Post
Nook&I, many breeders honor their guarantee/warranty without requiring that the dog be returned.

The downside is that if you opt to keep the dog (as many of us would do) you won't get any help with medical bills beyond the refund of your purchase price.

I understand that, & will accept the risk, but ONLY with breeders who have an established track record for producing sound, healthy, long lived dogs. Too often breeders are loudly touted as such, but scratch the surface and a myriad of health, structural & temperament problems suddenly pop up. Sadly, I've come to realize that in these PC times, the phrase 'good breeder' is as meaningless as the term 'byb'.
Thanks for this info!! To be honest this was my first time purchasing a dog and I was 27 when I got him. I for sure was a green horn. I put in what I thought was a lot of time researching this kennel. I def know more for next time and will continue to get better at this process.
07-26-2014 01:47 PM
VaderHD
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Originally Posted by onyx'girl View Post
There is a breeder local to me that produces several litters per year(like 7 or 8 planned breedings on their site constantly)
I'm working with a 2yr old dog from that breeder(working on his reactivity), he is a gorgeous B&R coatie, he has HD. His rear end is very weak, though the owner is doing everything she can for him.

Breeder would replace him of course because producing so many pups makes it easy to do so. But the breeder would put the dog down if the owner went with the replacement pup. Keeping the 2yr old with HD and getting another pup from that breeder that may also have temperament and health issues would not be something I'd want to do. Once bitten twice shy.
The breeder explained that with so many litters being produced, the chances of HD is higher
Real responsible.....
Choose your breeder wisely!
My last two dogs from two different breeders had HD (clinical and radiologic evidence). The first breeder wanted confirmation that the dog was euthanized and then offered me a 'discount' on a new pup (I did not accept the discount). The second breeder wanted the dog returned and, after agreeing to a replacement pup, the breeder did a 'bait and switch' when I arrived at the kennel. I did not accept the alternative pup. I am sure both breeders had some quality animals that are used as website window dressing but their overall ethics are poor. I would strongly encourage developing a relationship with a breeder and visiting them several times before purchasing a pup. It's awful getting a genetically inferior animal from an unethical breeder that's not willing to back-up their commitment to the breed!
07-26-2014 09:38 AM
onyx'girl There is a breeder local to me that produces several litters per year(like 7 or 8 planned breedings on their site constantly)
I'm working with a 2yr old dog from that breeder(working on his reactivity), he is a gorgeous B&R coatie, he has HD. His rear end is very weak, though the owner is doing everything she can for him.

Breeder would replace him of course because producing so many pups makes it easy to do so. But the breeder would put the dog down if the owner went with the replacement pup. Keeping the 2yr old with HD and getting another pup from that breeder that may also have temperament and health issues would not be something I'd want to do. Once bitten twice shy.
The breeder explained that with so many litters being produced, the chances of HD is higher
Real responsible.....
Choose your breeder wisely!
07-26-2014 09:22 AM
Blitzkrieg1 Send the dog back or he can live a painfilled life...hmmmm.
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