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06-28-2014 10:04 PM
Cassidy's Mom
Originally Posted by blackshep View Post
But it takes a while to get there.
It definitely does - don't get discouraged if what you're working on doesn't look much like flyball for awhile. Our club works very incrementally, breaking it all down into much smaller pieces and only putting it all together as the dog masters the prior steps. How long that takes depends on the particular dog.

It sounds like he's fit, with a good foundation of training already so I definitely don't think it's too late to start. Good luck and have fun!
06-28-2014 09:38 PM
blackshep Insanity!! Lol

My dog can't do flyball, she has a low threshold and gets totally spun.

On my team, we start out with a lot of restrained recalls. The eventually move to box work. Later they will learn to run on their own, then against another dog and the into another dog, then into other dogs/against other dogs. But it takes a while to get there.
06-28-2014 09:50 AM
VomBlack We're taking the class with DOTCORNY, they have a training place again that's only about 5 miles from my house. Depending on how it goes I may look into the team at boomtowne for further classes.

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06-28-2014 08:09 AM
lauren43 Haha. Your in Rochester! I went to classes at Boomtowne too (if that's where you end up going)...

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06-28-2014 07:06 AM
JeanKBBMMMAAN Are you going to Boomtown?
06-28-2014 12:12 AM
lauren43 I don't think you can be too late. Just stick with it and have fun!

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06-28-2014 12:08 AM
VomBlack Thank you! That was all very helpful.

We trained in bitework from the time he was a puppy until this past fall so thankfully tug is s have he enjoys. He's also a super nut when it comes to balls so I'm hoping he will take to it.

Trying to think of which way I normally see him turn when retrieving and I want to say right.. I'll have to see if that's correct or not.

I was a little concerned that we may be a bit late to the game, with Odin being 5, but he's in good shape so I'm hoping it won't be an issue.

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06-27-2014 11:15 PM
lauren43 Yep! I bet they are all a bit different.

My dog would get the ball but never wanted to bring it back lol

And we did do the natural turn.

I wish we had done targeting for the box turns, it probably would have gone faster.

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06-27-2014 10:54 PM
Cassidy's Mom There are a lot of different ways to train, and different thoughts on gear too, so it's going to depend. I started with a Comfort Flex harness like the one Lauren pictured, but my club doesn't like harnesses and I got a lot of pressure to stop using it, so eventually I did. I needed something to grab ahold of though, and Halo is a coatie and a regular flat collar got lost in her fur, so I bought a special flyball collar with a handle on it. Since you're just starting out I wouldn't worry too much about buying anything special unless the trainer encourages you to do so.

We use a target stick to train the box turn, so targeting is one of the basic skills we start with. Other people prefer to lure dogs onto the box, and I'm sure there are other methods I'm not aware of. But it's a good skill to have, so you might want to start working on it just in case. I taught Halo a hand target (nose to my palm) starting when she was just a puppy, so it was easy to transfer that to the end of a target stick.

Tugging is good too, although he'd rather work for food you can use that instead but tug is preferred. The kind that most people use is long, so it will drag on the ground as you run away. Braided fleece is very popular, but may not hold up to a GSD for long. Tugs made from climbing rope are good too, or with climbing rope braided in with the fleece to add strength. I ended up making a special braided fleece tug for Halo that has Orbee balls on it because she wouldn't drop the tennis ball for the tug.

If he will already retrieve a ball, that's great. If he'll retrieve a ball for a tug reward, even better! A balance of ball and tug is best because you want them driving hard in both directions - to the box for the ball and then to hold onto the ball all the way to you for the reward. If he does retrieve but doesn't have a strong out, work on that. If he'll retrieve a ball but drop it before he gets to you, work on having him bring it all the way to your hand before dropping it.

The very first thing we do is determine which way the dog turns naturally. We do a "dead ball" retrieve, where the owner restrains the dog and tosses a ball a few feet away. It doesn't have to be far. Wait for the ball to stop rolling and go "dead", then send him. If you do this 5 or 6 times and he always turns either to the left or the right every single time, that's his natural turning side and that's what you're going to train with. Some dogs don't seem to have a preference, our club is teaching classes right now, and I got TWO dogs that seemed to be ambidextrous! One right turn, two lefts, two rights, and a left. Gack! You can also observe which way he turns when he goes into his crate. With Halo I was pretty much 100% sure she'd be a righty before we did the dead ball retrieves in her class because when I go to put her food bowl on the floor she spins in a circle, and ALWAYS to the right.

As in Lauren's class you'll probably be doing lots of restrained recalls, which is basically the end of a flyball run. We start out on the flat (no jumps), then start backchaining the jumps - one jump recall, two jumps, then three jumps, etc. We put gates at the side of the jumps to encourage the dogs not to run around them. If you have a friend who can work with you on restrained recalls, that's something else you can do in the meantime.

That's really all the foundation stuff I can think of that you can do on your own. For a lot of things you not only need to know what you're doing but you also need extra people and equipment.
06-27-2014 09:20 PM
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