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|06-25-2014 01:17 PM|
|Taz's Mom||On lead trailing. I am really hoping it is age and his play drive will come later.|
|06-25-2014 10:37 AM|
|jocoyn||Heard the name; not familiar with the team. Is he going to be an on lead trailing dog for sure or an off lead airscent dog or do you know yet? No, it won't be enough later.....Yes, I know....I met some of them at the Dupont exercise last fall!|
|06-25-2014 09:24 AM|
|Taz's Mom||The team is costal carolina in greenville. Right now that is a lot of what we are doing with him is run always. He gets to see the person run away then they just step off into the woods where he can't see them. We pump him up good before, and after. I am just worried this won't be enough later.|
|06-25-2014 08:14 AM|
I can see why they want to build up a good reward system. Right now, your dog is doing easy stuff for trailing but the trailing dog is typically used to find direction of travel with only a vague idea of where the start is and in an area contaminated with older scent from the victim as well as fresher scent from family members, other dogs who may have worked the area, searchers etc. (not to mention vehicles parked at the scene when the call is first taken)
Once the dog is ON the trail, it becomes very motivating in and of itself but scanning to find the trail is hard, tedious work and he is going to need to learn to search when there is no or very low or very complex odor..........hence the value of the reward. A top notch trailing dog is a real asset.
Why don't you start by getting strangers to play with him outside of training before expecting it at training? He needs to look at other folks as fun fun fun. Then set up very very short trailing problems and build in the reward. One thing that may jack him up is to (discuss with your training folks) do a short runaway after the find to jack him up and switch on the prey drive.
What team are you on? NCCERT? I don't know many of the teams in Eastern NC anymore.
|06-24-2014 11:16 PM|
Originally Posted by jocoyn View Post
Yes he is 7 months old. Thanks I have a flirt pole. He plays fetch with me and tug, when we are working he just doesn't seem to want to play
|06-24-2014 11:14 PM|
Originally Posted by DutchKarin View Post
|06-24-2014 11:10 PM|
Originally Posted by counter View Post
He will play tug and fetch when we are not tranning. As for acting silly yes that was hard at first acting like that in front for people I just met. Yes SAR is amazing I love it, and he does to I just don't want him to lose the drive he has.
|06-24-2014 11:04 PM|
Originally Posted by Castlemaid View Post
|06-24-2014 11:03 PM|
Originally Posted by gsdsar View Post
We are doing trailing. He will play when he doesn't have on his vest and we are not working. Can't figure this out. For example he is playing tug right now as I am typing with my daughter. It's like when he is working he is really focused and serious. If that makes sense.
|06-24-2014 08:25 PM|
Your dog is young...about 7 months old, correct? I would work on building whatever toy drive is in the dog both with you and with other people and see if you can turn him into a toy maniac.......the flirt pole is good for that. I turned one into a tug monster (she was very food driven) by using one of those tugs that holds treats then opening it up and feeding her after the tug game.
Tug N Treat - food motivating tug toy
I have seen some very succesful dogs that were food driven (to the extreme) but when you train with a group of people it is easier to "think inside the box" as the folks who will be helping you have expressed a strong preference for a toy driven dog.
Generally, the dogs who only "work for praise"...do seem to have problems when the searching gets tough........even though I honestly think it is the joy of the hunt and not the toy that motivates a good search dog...but that all seems to go hand in hand.
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