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06-24-2014 06:44 PM
counter
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I know I've came across 130 pound shepherds that were too strong for me, 6ft and 220 pounds, there will be a dog too big and aggressive for just hands on.


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I'm pretty sure 3 Rottweilers and an oversized Siberian, attacking my 65 lb boy all at the same time, weighed more than 130 lbs combined. Probably closer to 300-400 lbs of aggressive dog in attack mode. I was able to beat them all back with 1 hand, while restraining my dog (who was trying to defend himself and attack back) with the other hand. It can be done! Haha. Not that I ever want to experience that again, which is why this was the last time Beowulf ever went to the dog park. The final straw, you might say!
06-24-2014 06:31 PM
Thewretched I know I've came across 130 pound shepherds that were too strong for me, 6ft and 220 pounds, there will be a dog too big and aggressive for just hands on.


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06-24-2014 04:40 PM
counter I've always been able to break up dog fights with my bare hands. While controlling my leashed GSD and Sibe, I had to fight off a large aggressive off leash pit bull on the streets of Portland, OR, within a few feet from one of the busiest streets. I think I posted that story on here years ago. I was at a dog park with Beowulf, my wolfdog, and had to defend him from 3 attacking Rottweilers and an aggressive Siberian Husky who came into the park with 2 of the 3 Rotties. When the adrenaline is flowing and my behaving dogs are under attack, I instantly go into "I will die defending my dogs" mode. I've never needed to use my gun or any spray. Maybe I've been lucky, or maybe I just have some sort of special skill when it comes to my dogs. There are many other stories where a 1 on 1 fight/attack broke out, and I was able to keep or get that dog away from mine. My 60 lb Paw Paw attacked a Mastiff (silly Paw Paw, what was he thinking?) his third time at the dog park, after he was attacked the first 2 times he went, and I had to break that up with my hands. The Mastiff bit me and drew blood, but it wasn't bad, and my Paw Paw started it. That was Paw Paw's last time to the dog park. Haha! I actually think I've posted about all of these experiences on here after they happened. We've been attacked so many times, I can't even keep count. Most of them happened while we were on a leashed walk in a neighborhood or park, and someone's unleashed, out of control, sometimes aggressive dog ran up on us.
06-24-2014 10:37 AM
Thewretched I'm going to say, as a concealed carrier, if I was a dog park kind of guy, I wouldn't dream of going there without a powerful gel based pepper spray, you have to think of worse case scenarios when you think of self-defense. (Or dog defense).

Scenario- someone brings their pit, and their germanshep. (Not uncommon, most have 2 dogs). Typical owner is talking to the other typical owners ignoring their dogs.

Random dog owner 2 shows up with their chow. And chow starts "playing" with your dog. Pit and the GSD interpret the chows growling/barking play style for aggression and the powder keg has been lit,

Now how do you stop this? A stick? Your going to stop 3 big dogs from fighting with a stick? Even pepper spray at that point is sketchy, you'll have to hit every dog including your own.

The point of this rant is to make you think, what am I going to do when it's a truly aggressive dog? Let my dog get attacked? Or be prepared to save my dog, regardless of if I have to spray it to stop it.

I've been on walks where I've had to draw on a dog.

And I've been to dog parks(before I knew better) where I've sprayed dogs, you have to be ready.


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06-24-2014 10:28 AM
kiya
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What about a collapsible walking stick? that in mind. ) so I am getting a walking stick, USUALLY one good whap to the top of the head and the dog will back down, also WAY less chance of your own dog getting sprayed by accident as well (or yourself!)!
I heard it's best to hit the dog on the muzzle, only be careful not to hit too hard. I used to carry a stick that was my plan, glad I never had to test if out.
06-24-2014 10:19 AM
N Smith What about a collapsible walking stick? They are pretty cheap on Amazon. I am getting one, as where I live people think dogs need to be "wild" and have freedom - well yes they do need freedom to run, but ONLY if they are under control. If your dog isn't it should be on leash, however, that seems to be too hard for most people to understand.

After myself and my Two Shepherds were cornered against a fence by an attacking dog (with me barely holding my two back as now they had gone into defense and had every right to be IMO, but I was doing my best NOT to have a dog fight as the owner was 800 yards away hiding behind a shed still trying to call her dogs, then telling me they weren't coming so I was on my own!!! I really do not want my dogs to hurt another dog even if it is warranted. If it happens and I did everything I could then I will be ok with it, but for the other dog to suffer because of an idiot owner is not fair, so I always try to keep that in mind. ) so I am getting a walking stick, USUALLY one good whap to the top of the head and the dog will back down, also WAY less chance of your own dog getting sprayed by accident as well (or yourself!)!
06-24-2014 09:57 AM
Gretchen We have two spray containers of the citronella type. Never had to use them. Amazon had some decent reviews.

After much reading however nothing seemed effective against pitbulls except this wedge to put down their throats - very scary.

I hope this was just a random chase and that you can go back to enjoying your bike rides.
06-24-2014 03:33 AM
volcano Even though we have concealed carry now, I think pepperspray is still illegal in crook county IL. I have some and id use it if needed, but I understand that ill be going to court if I do. I have 10 round mags for my guns too- stupid county.
06-23-2014 04:23 PM
counter Can you find places to bike that are away from people, cars, and dogs? We have been lucky enough to find a nearby park or cemetery that welcomed behaving dogs and responsible dog owners. I take mine bikejoring daily and rarely have any problems. I used to have similar problems in areas like neighborhoods with dogs that would run up on us off leash. My dogs have been attacked multiple times, and each time I was able to defend my dogs and beat off the attacking dogs. The problem with the sprays from what I've read is that sometimes the spray will get into your eyes or your own dog's eyes, depending on the wind direction and speed. I wouldn't use a spray, but I also now have plenty of experience breaking up dog fights with my bare hands. No fun ever! Ha. Good luck.
06-23-2014 04:05 PM
KathrynApril
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Gel based pepper spray is the only way to go if your going to use it, more of silly string less of cooking spray. Don't get anything they sell at a pet store, go for a sporting good store.


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Thank you so much I will do that.
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