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06-25-2014 08:56 PM
Mikelia Evie is not hyper, she is very calm and quiet in the house. Go outside with the ball to work and she is balls to the wall. Very good on/off switch. But she is a thinker. My gsds are thinkers too and will work a situation so it benefits them, but she is a methodical, evil, planning thinker. Aside from a few phone chargers as a puppy and a pair of sunglasses she has never been destructive, but if there is food to be found and she has the opportunity she will find it. And she has a love for paper. Everything she does screams neurotic obsessive though. When she has opportunity to tear up paper (which she rarely does now that she is older) it is torn into a million and one tiny same sized pieces and left in a neat little pile. She can take a package of gum, rip 1/4 of the box off, unwrap every piece and tear up each wrapper while leaving each piece of gum intact. Meticulous is a word I use to describe her.
She will steal food, this is not something I have been able to break her of and the only reason she is still crated at almost 6 years old. She can be loose with a steak on the floor so long as I am home. She will not touch anything if I am home. But if left long enough she will find a way to find something. It might take 2 weeks of being free 100% but eventually she will ruin it for herself. She's bad lol. For example one year for xmas I got my sister a bunch of baking supplies. Everything she would need - baking pans, vanilla, flour etc... wrapped up in a basket. In a 20 minute span while we went to the store she pulled it down off a shelf and chewed into the bag of flour (thank god it was a small bag of flour). She also removed 2 tangerines from my boyfriends lunch box and placed them with the flour. Flour was glued to her feet, her whiskers, halfway up her legs and to the carpet. What a mess and what a bad dog!
She is an amazing, brilliant, athletic dog that I wouldn't trade for anything but she is not a dog for the average owner. I am active, she has always gotten a lot of exercise, she competes in agility, we go to dog events regularly, she goes to work with me often, I even trained her as a duck dog with formal retrieving. Despite this, while living in town, it was not enough. The chewing her feet, weird tearing up paper habits, food stealing are all mental stimulation for her saying she needs more activity - more of a job. Since we've moved and she is receiving constant heavy exercise, is travelling across the property with us doing repairs and things in addition to her regular stimulation from agility and other training, she is finally in her element.
I find most people that love the breed and have good ones compete regularly in some event like flyball or agility, work them on livestock or do not work, are with the dog all of the time and walk a lot. For your average home where people work a 40 hour week it is very difficult to provide for them properly imo.
I will always own a bc I think, but gsds are definitely my preference. Much more easy going with all the intelligence.
06-25-2014 07:08 PM
Axel13 I have both German Shepherds and a Border Collie (and a Sheltie). The difference in personality between my Collie and shepherds is unbelievable. My youngest Shepherd wants to please me from the moment he wakes up until he goes to bed. My Collie wants to please because she knows she will be rewarded. She is very intelligent and always thinking.

I have both of them in agility and my collie is much much faster however she is sometimes to fast and then we end up making a mistake because i can't give her the next command quick enough. My shepherd however is always looking at me he knows that I have to tell him whats next.

I can't say that I prefer one breed to the other (although mt shepherd Axel is my baby).
06-25-2014 06:53 PM
osito23 We used to live next to someone with 3 border collies that they ran in agility. Neat dogs; very smart, and really a thinking breed. I don't think that these dogs were "hyper" per say. They definitely needed regular exercise, but they needed mental work more than running a marathon. I grew up with aussies and love the breed. They (generally) aren't quite as intense as the BCs and can be very silly dogs. Neither are a good breed for an inexperienced owner IMO.
06-25-2014 04:10 PM
Franksmom I think BC's and GSD's are both easy to train, but like someone else said My GSD is more in to training and doing what I want to please me. The BC's love to learn anything new and then add their own twist to it

Now to see where the Aussie fits in with the other 2 breeds.
06-25-2014 01:51 PM
Rosco810 I have border collies and have had a number of them over the years. I think where you get them from makes a big difference. People that work and use them for real know they aren't usually herding all year round unless you keep a few off to the side specifically for it. My current two can easily take months off in a row without any problems. They come from very strong working lines. Their breeder wanted good dogs they could live with. They owned a big farm with sheep and cattle but have since moved. They decided to stop breeding.

I did get a couple of crazy dogs before I knew what to look for. Not crazy in energy levels but not right in the head.

I don't find the border collies or working line shepherds hyper but they do ideally need some regular exercise. An hour a day just sounds crazy to me. It is probably most important to have a sound temperament with an off switch.

When I had my C section all my border collies and shepherds got zero exercise for 3 months. I had no problems even with a 9 month old Shepherd puppy ( plus my 5 other adult dogs at the time). Maybe I am just lucky but I don't think so.
06-25-2014 11:30 AM
misslesleedavis1 Lol I dug thru fb to find a pic! The one standing is mags, she came from hollowshot, the breeder has working bc's that herd and agility specialist.
The red and white is chase, I have no idea were he comes from but he is a pinch taller then dex.
Dex is behind him, dex comes from a breeder out by the US / CAN border, his dad worked sheep and his mom was just a house dog. As we were told, dex and mags are related, chase came with papers but I have never seen them, he belongs to mags parents.

However mags is the smallest of the group, my mothers BC is even smaller then mags, she came from a working farm out by London ontario.
And I wish I could remember the breeders name
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06-25-2014 11:13 AM
Liesje I also think there are differences in lines (like any breed). Some of our team BCs are very loud, always yapping and barking and running around. In contrast, I've seen a few dogs from the breeder Danielle's dog is from (and I think all these dogs may be related through Animal?) and what I observe is that these dogs are more "collected". They are quiet waiting for their turn but you can tell every muscle in their body is ready to RUN. They aren't barking and lunging around waiting their turn but you line them up, release them, and they shoot forward like they were fired out of a slingshot.
06-25-2014 11:10 AM
Liesje
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They certainly range in size. Dex is a 50 pound dog, his girlfriend mags is about 40 pounds, she is way shorter then dex. Unlike DJ's he loves kids but really dislikes teenage boys. He was also out of his crate around 6 mnths. Super smart, infact it like constant episode of pinky and the brain around here, dex being the brain and shiggs is pinky, anyone who has a bc will know what I mean. They also have that "I am very disappointed in you today" look they will dole out if necessary.

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The ones I know from flyball and agility are usually sport or herding/farm lines and 40lbs is on the bigger side. I also know someone with an AKC show type BC and he looks huge to me, is bigger and fluffier than most of the Aussies I know. Flyball BCs tend to be 25-40lbs.
06-25-2014 11:09 AM
DJEtzel My border collie is much smarter than either shepherd, in the sense that he is a thinking dog much more so. He wants to figure things out, my GSDs just want to do what they think I want from them, if that makes sense? My border collie is the easiest to shape and teach new behaviors to by far.
06-25-2014 11:04 AM
Jaxx's mom Has anyone noticed one dog (GSD or BC) being easier to train than the other? I know Jaxx was extremely easy to train, but I have never had a BC. I heard that BC's are the smartest dogs in the world.
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