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06-20-2014 09:52 AM
Allie512 I know; that is why she does not get anything, i.e., heart worm preventative, etc. Ziggy does get heart worm preventative. I am getting the supplements today - Nutramax - will put an immediate claim into Petplan and see if they will pay.
06-20-2014 07:50 AM
JeanKBBMMMAAN You don't want to stimulate her immune system at all. Her immune system is already over-stimulated and needs tamped down.
06-19-2014 07:07 PM
Momto2GSDs Poor Allie! I feel so bad for her and you!
This is a wonderful product made with human grade ingredients that I have used for detoxing that could also help Allie:
Phyt'n Chance combines high ORAC* marine and terra super greens which provide powerful antioxdant benefits. Split cell Chlorella and Spirulina are outstanding sources of complete, bio-available, nutrition providing improtant amino acids, minerals, vitamins and enzymes.

Phyt'n Chance has generous amounts of these two powerhouse superfoods, which including cleansing/detoxification, anti inflammation, and phyto nutrition supporting immune health. The inclusion of reishi mushroom powder and "matcha" green tea powder provide further benefit by way of their immune stimulating properties. Phyt-n-Chance-K9-A-Highly-Concentrated-Antioxidant-Blend

Really wishin you guys best!
06-19-2014 12:46 PM
Allie512 Petplan has been great about paying for items and I strongly believe they will pay for the supplements.
Rabies - Allie just had her 3 year on 9/13 so she will be 12 years old when she needs it again. I do not let her out except in my yard with me with her - she is not walked in parks, etc. We do have a lot of potential for encounters with wild things here but she is fairly isolated. Ziggy goes with me to national and state parks - on lead - he is young and will continue to get his shots - he also walks with me every day on lead so I must protect him.
Allie is really struggling right now. Will show my vet - she is wonderful - the types of pred. We cannot even take Allie for rides to Red Rock or Lake Mead right now as it stresses her and she takes a step backward. Hopefully in the fall I will be able to at least take her to see things - Allie really loves rides.
Thank you for all the advice.
06-19-2014 11:18 AM
carmspack stinging nettles,
chlorophyll rich chlorella and spirulina
06-19-2014 08:08 AM
JeanKBBMMMAAN I like those Nutramax products you named because they are tested, measured, regulated well by the company from all that I have heard - effective in dogs, which is tested, the amount that is on the package is what they actually get and are able to use, which is not always the case. If she can tolerate them, and you can afford them long-term, I would say they are the gold standard and go with them and their dosages.

Also, is she on prednisone or prednisilone? 01 Prednisone/Prednisolone - - a VIN company! or What Is the Difference Between Prednisone and Prednisolone? My vet office only uses the latter so as not to stress the liver as much.

Even with the exemption, check with your state department of health or whatever organization oversees that to make sure you know what a titer or exemption means if your dog is bitten (I don't know rates of rabies out there), and what their expectations are of you. I know I've read some laws which pretty much sound as if the dog is exempt, they shouldn't be going out and about where they could get bitten - so leashed, contained, etc, for their safety. Always good to know what their expectations of us are as well when we are asking for things.

Hope she is able to get it into remission soon and no more flares.
06-18-2014 10:24 PM
Dejavu Hope Allie feels better!

To those who have given Milk Thistle, how much do you give?
06-18-2014 09:01 PM
Allie512 My vet does not vaccinate dogs over a certain age and did not do Allie's vaccinations in 2013 when she was due (we move to LV in late 2012); when she is due for rabies, she will get an exemption.
Dr. C also does not want Allie on heart worm medication - we have very little in Las Vegas.
06-18-2014 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by GatorBytes View Post
Whatever you do. NEVER EVER vaccinate her again. I hope your vet advised you it is not safe to vaccinate an animal with auto immune disease.

I hope the vet didn't do any vaccines at anytime you were going through the ordeal in your other thread, or at first sign or anytime of illness.
Your dog can get a Rabies exemption (in some states) due to illness and if he has been vaccinated for other you most likely won't need anymore.

Dr. Ron Schultz Immunity Challenge:
Minimum Duration of Immunity for Canine Vaccines:

Distemper- 7 years by challenge/15 years by serology
Parvovirus – 7 years by challenge/ 7 years by serology
Adenovirus – 7 years by challenge/ 9 years by serology
Canine rabies – 3 years by challenge/ 7 years by serology

Lifelong Immunity – Why Vets Are Pushing Back | Dogs Naturally Magazine

06-18-2014 11:53 AM
GatorBytes Whatever you do. NEVER EVER vaccinate her again. I hope your vet advised you it is not safe to vaccinate an animal with auto immune disease.

I hope the vet didn't do any vaccines at anytime you were going through the ordeal in your other thread, or at first sign or anytime of illness.
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