|06-20-2014 09:56 PM|
I've been following the trainer we will be working with on fb and when I met him he seemed great. The dogs do not seem robotic at all. He is also very invested in his clients. He said his clients are clients for life. You basically pay a lump sum or make payments, and then you can do as many classes as you want for your dog's while life.
And yes, he uses the lowest stim that the dog can feel.
|06-20-2014 12:24 PM|
I've seen those that don't like them, but have no qualms about using a switch. It's also key to train the dog on what is expected 1st, it's for when they choose not to obey a known command.
I also think the owner/dog bond is of utmost importance, not that training can't take place without it. I wouldn't use an e collar for nickel & dime training, just about only for the 'big stuff'.
Another option is to just buy your own 'Sport Dog' 425 collar, school up, and push ahead yourself with the training. You can check the local library or buy books and videos on training.
I do agree, some depends on the dog. One usually wants more than one or 2 choices in the toolbox.
|06-17-2014 07:50 AM|
|06-16-2014 10:12 PM|
So I've decided that we are going to do it just going to wait awhile because of money (or lack of...)
I've spoken with some of this trainer's clients and they have nothing but great things to say about him.
|06-15-2014 10:54 AM|
I have never heard of SMS before this, but I do know there is better living with electricity.
There were nay sayers with the light bulb too.
There are savvy people who recognized all the many benefits of this tool and they capitalized on it.
This is great for people who have a problem dog and/or just feel like they have to be taught how to use it in other areas.
IMHO this tool is not a short cut to teaching the basics at any level, but I could be wrong.
But there is no doubt if your dog is trained, you can tweak/proof to near perfection with it.
There is nothing wrong with paying for an experts advice and experience if you feel the need.
I think a person who is capable and knowledgeable enough to train a dog in the first place can do well
with this tool without spending a lot of extra money & time. You also don't have to spend a lot of money
on the collar it's self. I paid $79.00 for my Pet Ed version and it has worked perfect for over 2 years.
|06-14-2014 04:12 PM|
I've gotten some emails from this particular trainers clients, they really love him and have seen huge improvements with their dogs. Including off leash reliability.
|06-14-2014 12:01 AM|
|gsdsar||Personally, I wont train with anyone who has only one tool in their box. If the only way they can train a dog is with the ecollar, i would look elsewhere. I would look elsewhere if they only trained with positive, only trained with prong, or choke. I want a trainewr that customizes training to the individual dog. Its not one size fits all.|
|06-13-2014 11:36 PM|
I only know about the local franchise here in town. The man who runs it I met some time ago when my golden was a puppy and we had just discovered the Schutzhund clubs in town. The general feeling that I get from the community of dog trainers as a whole here is that he is not exactly a good trainer, and without the collar, the dog doesn't do what it does with it on. A friend of mine paid the 800 for the collar and classes. She said when it was on, and when they were training, her dog did perfect. But as soon as it was off, he didn't really care again.
The gist of what I got from the trainer I know is that the idea behind the collar is to use it like a clicker. Which makes me figure that they use the vibrating portion of that collar more than the shocking one. Again, that was what I got as an impression from the man that I know, so don't really count it as 100% fact.
Personally I wouldn't go with them. The money for the collar and the continued need for the collar don't seem worth the money, IMO. I have had to use the prong with my three current dogs at one point or another, but I have been able to wean them off the tool. That is what all these collars are. Tools. They should not be considered the begin all, end all of training. They are aids.
Only dog that I saw that he trained was a young GSD that a woman who really has no business in owning said GSD has. She was putting basket muzzles with socks in between around the puppy's face before she resorted to this. Everything I tried to tell her about training and living with a GSD was forgotten. I loved the look of her baby, even if I know the breeder wasn't a very good one in my region. Seeing her after the training, she looked depressed and almost forlorn. The dog also took up chasing and chewing on her tail, which states to me that the poor baby is understimulated.
So, end of the day, take it as you will, but my overall perception is not too highly of the franchise, and I have other trainers I personally know who I recommend to people around me.
|06-13-2014 10:24 PM|
|Germanshepherdlove||Thanks for the info. Just to add,I would never send one of my dogs away to be trained. I would be going to their training building, as well as doing training with the trainer out in public.|
|06-13-2014 06:42 PM|
We did our sessions in home. The other was too expensive and I didn't really want my dog out of site. I liked the in home training though.
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