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06-07-2014 11:58 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by CharlieB.Barkin View Post
No worries. It was my poor communication. Originally I was considering it, but it became apparent that it was a bad idea.

Following that Leerburg article must be difficult if you live with a family.
Just take what you need! Adjust according to your circumstances! Usually pack members are not an issue! It's a working dog site, but these are "real" dogs and they can have "real dog issues!" It's where I found the info I needed.

All you need to do is "ignore and move on" keep the dog at your side and control interaction. I "had" to say No you can't pet my dog" because, I was unsure of his reactions and was not about to take any chances!! He got use to that, I learned to read him like a book. I learned what to look for. When I saw "zero" reaction from him when I stopped and spoke to someone, I knew he was safe!

He can be petted by anyone today and ... he could pretty much care less! Job done!

It was the same with dogs behind fences..."I don't care and neither do you we are moving!" That was the deal, dog reactivity was never a issue! Two for one as it were!

If your dog has no "people issues" you can relax but still you control him! He does not dictate terms you do!

take a look at post 12 by David Winners:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ml#post4200098

Never did that myself but it looks good to me!
06-07-2014 11:33 PM
Colie CVT With my dog, who is mostly a butthead but slowly getting better, whenever we would get near other dogs when walking, I would pull him close to my side and keep walking straight, telling him to leave it as we went past. He has gotten to where he is much better on a leash, especially if we move off to the side or walk past unreacting dogs.

Public places with lots of people and dogs are chaotic. I will admit that I brought my pup with me and my golden (who is 100% safe with other dogs and people), with the goal in mind of praising him and rewarding him for simply staying quiet and observing other dogs. He actually did very well in the end, and was being very polite and calm. More of the issue was with people who weren't paying attention to their dogs or simply didn't seem to care that their dog was getting into other dog's or people's spaces.

I had one gentleman who looked offended when I told him that my puppy can be unpredictable at times with other dogs to warn him to reel his little italian grayhound in. I was sitting on the bumper of our ambulance and Doyle was laying down between my legs and under where I was sitting. I had both hands on his collar with my attention on both the dogs. He was a perfect boy, merely laying there until they left. He has been steadily getting better since he knows what I want from him. With new dogs, he is supposed to ignore them. If they happen to be in the group with us, he has to stay on task and leave them alone. It has worked for me in his case lol.

Just today he met a dog for the first time I know he never did and he wanted to PLAY with her when she came up! It's the first time I've ever seen him try to initiate play with a strange dog he just met. He isn't 100% perfect, but he gets very clear reward for what is wanted, and clear punishment when it isn't. He's hard to distract when he gets to a certain level, and he has a rather hard head lol. But he wants the reward more (generally getting to go play with his doggie friends and packmates) and his recall has gotten much sharper when we're out.

Took my golden til when he was 3 to suddenly seem to grow up and get everything I'd been trying to teach him. Dogs lol. Can't wait for the obnoxious stage to be over with!
06-07-2014 10:27 PM
CharlieB.Barkin
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Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
Well I read it as your thinking about it? So if I got it wrong...my bad!

But regardless the links in post three and especially, 'Who Pets my Puppy or Pet" is where I would and do start! It worked out just great for me and Rocky! And he had a serious "people issue!!"

More here in post 8:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...allenging.html

And this:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ing-dog-4.html

I used to say, I never had a dog with issues where I saw the need, so I never had the need for doing this my dog, still don't! But... I have started working rescue, I was working with a dog with people issues (fear) did it today and OMG!! I kept the dog between my legs, a forced sit on occasion and he settled down and laid calmly at my feet and interacted with a few of the other dogs from that spot and he seemed as happy and goofy as the rest! (Boxers...so yeah) I was stunned and delighted!!
No worries. It was my poor communication. Originally I was considering it, but it became apparent that it was a bad idea.

Following that Leerburg article must be difficult if you live with a family.
06-07-2014 10:15 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by CharlieB.Barkin View Post
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough, but I'm not taking him. I'm just trying to figure out how to work with him at this point.
Well I read it as your thinking about it? So if I got it wrong...my bad!

But regardless the links in post three and especially, 'Who Pets my Puppy or Pet" is where I would and do start! It worked out just great for me and Rocky! And he had a serious "people issue!!"

More here in post 8:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...allenging.html

And this:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ing-dog-4.html

I used to say, I never had a dog with issues where I saw the need, so I never had the need for doing this my dog, still don't! But... I have started working rescue, I was working with a dog with people issues (fear) did it today and OMG!! I kept the dog between my legs, a forced sit on occasion and he settled down and laid calmly at my feet and interacted with a few of the other dogs from that spot and he seemed as happy and goofy as the rest! (Boxers...so yeah) I was stunned and delighted!!
06-07-2014 09:24 PM
CharlieB.Barkin
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Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
Well you asked if it was a good idea. Pretty much the answer is no! You still have work to do! Yep you can do it and my not have any problems??

I don't put my dogs at risk I don't put other peoples dogs at risk! I don't trust others to do the same! Your kinda showing I'm right?

Kinda sad really.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough, but I'm not taking him. I'm just trying to figure out how to work with him at this point.
06-07-2014 09:20 PM
Chip18 Well you asked if it was a good idea. Pretty much the answer is no! You still have work to do! Yep you can do it and my not have any problems??

I don't put my dogs at risk I don't put other peoples dogs at risk! I don't trust others to do the same! Your kinda showing I'm right?

Kinda sad really.
06-07-2014 08:53 PM
CharlieB.Barkin I know for a fact that it's not aggression based, but it's still very much a problem behaviour. I've been to training classes and he plays fine with other dogs. I've taken him to city markets that are just packed with people and some of them bring their dogs. Sometimes to dogs greet, and all is fine, but it's just how he tries to force himself towards them and he gets all excited. So I guess the term for it would be "reactive"?

I used to volunteer at a shelter before I moved and I would walk most of their dogs. I'm no expert by any means, but I've walked aggressive dogs before and mine is nothing like them. It's just his excitability being a problem and potentially him getting himself into a situation (or at least trying to), where he can get himself hurt. He never has before, but his lack of self control around other dogs is a behaviour that I'm trying to get rid of.
06-07-2014 08:06 PM
Juliem24 Please do not put your dog at risk. It is not worth it.
06-07-2014 07:08 PM
Chip18 Seriously is this a serious question? IF you are very good at dog training and have some mad nutty reason for doing so now and you were sure that over-stimulation won't hurt your dog...then go ahead!

As long as you can guarantee that this won't be you and your dog:

German shepherd attacks, kills teacup poodle during Topeka parade | CJOnline.com

If going to a Pet Parade is a goal. Then work towards it with a safe dog stable dog! Start here, I found it works for dogs and people, move on and ignore:

Leerburg | Who Pets Your Puppy or Dog

Worked fine for me, when I was done I found I had no dog aggression issues!

But if additional work is needed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXeSvoeorEI

So can you yes, should you? With the list of problems you gave I would say right now, would not be a good time? What's the rush??
06-07-2014 05:07 PM
CharlieB.Barkin There are a few people who have second story balconies and often times the owners of the homes are sitting up their with their small dogs. These dogs will bark at us because they hear my dog's tags jingling around. He may sometimes look at them. If he does I give him a correction. He's gotten much better at ignoring these dogs.
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