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06-06-2014 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by OklahomaGSDonTheRez View Post
Is there a ratio to the apple cider and vinegar or is half and half good? Is the vinegar and apple ciger better than dog shampoos? Seems a little more natural which I am definitelly down for!
Half and half is fine, but the dilution rate isn't critical. I usually use about 3-4 cups per gallon. Your dog will smell like salad dressing until he dries. White vinegar doesn't have an odor after it dries, but apple cider vinegar sometimes does. In any case, it will be much better than what he smells like now.

If you add baking soda to the doggie shampoo, thick enough to make a paste, any doggie shampoo should work. "Dirty dog" or deodorizing shampoos tend to be drying if used too often; if that's all you have available, don't use it more often than once a month. If you want to bathe him once a week, use Earthbath--their line is gentler and tends not to strip the natural oils from the skin.

You can also use the vinegar rinse by itself as often as you want. If it were my dog, I'd be doing the vinegar rinse twice a week until the smell goes away. Be sure to check his skin and ears, and make sure nothing is red, rashy, or irritated--the vinegar may sting if there is open skin. If he has anything that looks red or sore, or if his ears are nasty, take him to the vet!
06-06-2014 07:27 AM
Momto2GSDs You may want to consider what Bow Wow Meow said about an infection.
Does he smell like "Frito's" or "Moldy Bread"? If so, he may have Yeast issues.

Something else to consider is what you are feeding him.
Per Dr. Fox: “Many dogs have naturally oily skin. But when the skin becomes excessively oily or dry and the dog has a pungent "dirty-dog" smell a day or so after a cleansing shampoo, something isn't right.

Some people live with these chronic canine skin problems, in part because the dog seems healthy and active otherwise. But skin problems and a bad odor can indicate an underlying nutritional deficiency or other health problems that, if left unattended, could lead to more serious complications. A veterinary checkup is advisable.

Many dry dog foods are notoriously high in starches and low in essential fatty acids. A teaspoon of flax seed oil per day in his food could do much to improve his skin health and get rid of the malodorous condition. Provide him with regular physical activity outdoors, and bathe as needed -- but do not bathe more than once a month after his odor is improved. Your weekly bathing could cause skin problems by disturbing the normal, healthy dermal surface cells and bacteria, leading to loss of natural oils, excessive secretion thereof and skin infection. Gentle daily grooming instead and periodically rubbing some diatomaceous earth or plain, unscented baby powder (but not when he is wet) into his coat outdoors (and then brushing it out) will also help. A dog bed stuffed with cedar shreds will create a more agreeable atmosphere.”

You may want to consider adding Cold Pressed, Raw, USDA Organic Virgin Coconut Oil, (containing No Hexane, No GMO's). Coconut Oil has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-viral properties. 1 to 2 teaspoons per 10 pounds of dog.

Per VetInfo: A high quality diet may improve the smell of your dog. What you put inside your dog often affects how he/she smells on the outside. Inappropriate foods such as highly processed or spicy foods can cause mild skin allergies.

Here are some high quality Non-Grain dog foods:
ACANA REGIONALS (grain free): Acana Regionals | Acana Store locator: Store Locator | Acana

ORIJEN (grain free): Six Fish Dog | Orijen Store locator: Where to Buy | Orijen Note that Orijen gives SOME dogs loose stool.

FROMM'S FOUR STAR (grain free):
Four-Star Gourmet Recipes for dogs - Fromm Family Foods Internet locator: Internet Retailers - Fromm Family Foods

NATURE'S VARIETY (not Nature's Recipe) Nature's Variety: Instinct Grain-Free Kibble Diets for Dogs | Nature's Variety Store locator: Find A Store | Nature's Variety

A Digestive Enzyme/Probiotic combo added to his food could also help. Here are 2 Human Grade products:
Digest All Plus:
Sunday Sundae: Sunday Sundae Nutritional Supplement

If you do decide to switch foods or add Coconut, Krill, or Organic Flax Seed oil to his food, remember to do it very slowly so as not to cause gut upset or you'll have a smell of a DIFFERENT kind! LOL

06-05-2014 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Freestep View Post
I don't know what it is about black dogs, but regardless of breed, they tend to have a distinctive odor. I call it "black dog whiff".
Heeeeyyyyy! Hans is deeply offended...
06-05-2014 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by OklahomaGSDonTheRez View Post
Wow, I have never heard of using apple cider and vinegar with baking soda! I will definitely give it a try. I think the source of the problem is that he is rarely dry! Is there a ratio to the apple cider and vinegar or is half and half good? Is the vinegar and apple ciger better than dog shampoos? Seems a little more natural which I am definitelly down for!
It's actually Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV for short) and Baking Soda.

You don't want to MIX the ACV and the Baking soda together as those mixed together cause a chemical reaction. I believe Freestep said to mix the Baking Soda into the shampoo, and then make a mix of water and Apple Cider Vinegar for a rinse.

You may want to use Organic Apple Cider Vinegar instead of grocery store vinegar as Organic contains the "Mother Tincture" (you can see it floating in the bottle) which has the medicinal properties to help with yeast. Braggs is a brand that most health food stores carry but any "Organic ACV" will do.

06-05-2014 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by OklahomaGSDonTheRez View Post
I have a full grown black lab that lives with my GSD. As we all know, labs love water. So I had an extra kiddy pool that was big enough for him to get in. Needless to say he LOVES it. He constantly dips in there to cool off. Sounds great. Until the pool started to get dirty. I cleaned it frequently but it has some kind of algea or moss growing on the bottom that will not come off. That plus him dipping in then running around outside or doing whatever else he does, has absolutely made him stink to high heaven!! I realize dogs have their own natural smell but this is worse than month old unwashed homeless feet!!! Yesterday I lathered him up in soap and let it sit for about 5 min before I washed him off and it took his stink from level 10 to level 8.9 on a stink rating! lol The goal is to have both dogs inside but he smells like a man that lives in a van down by the river. Does anyone know any really good shampoo, a small pool that will not be as easy for algea or whatever it is to bond to, or even some type of tablet or something that I could put in the water to clean it? I dumped out his pool yesterday to keep him from getting in it. Any ideas will help!!! I want him to be able to have some kind of pool to cool down in!
Sounds kinda like an anal gland secreting.

I've had Cruz have this in his kennel inside. Even with washing him and using a deoderizer after cleaning the kennel, it takes a few days for the odor to go away. Don't know what brings it on, but it stinks really bad and smells kinda like what you're describing.

We also found out last week when we had to go to the vet, he had a form of enflamed bowel. So we have been treating him for that. We figured it was caused by some of the bones he had eaten and they might have nicked his intestine and caused it to enflame. So there is that. Don't know if that had anything to do with the anal gland smell though.

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06-05-2014 03:52 PM
BowWowMeow I would guess that your lab might have a skin infection.

I use vinegar and baking soda to clean everything.
06-05-2014 03:48 PM
Galathiel The spot right above their tail seems to be really slow to dry and last summer did give my pup a certain 'odor'. After washing it well with his shampoo, I used vinegar on it (I gave him another bath a day or so later as I couldn't stand that vinegary smell). After going through that, I found that paying special attention particularly to that spot helped. In our humid weather, I think he was actually mildewing!
06-05-2014 03:30 PM
OklahomaGSDonTheRez Wow, I have never heard of using apple cider and vinegar with baking soda! I will definitely give it a try. I think the source of the problem is that he is rarely dry! Is there a ratio to the apple cider and vinegar or is half and half good? Is the vinegar and apple ciger better than dog shampoos? Seems a little more natural which I am definitelly down for!
06-05-2014 03:14 PM
huntergreen did he develop a yeast skin infection?
06-05-2014 02:44 PM
Traveler's Mom The OP said she bathed the dog and he still stinks pretty bad. I assumed this had nothing to do with the dog staying wet. I KNOW that wet moldy smell since Traveler stays pretty damp particularly in the summer with our high humidity levels. I do a reverse flow of the wet/dry vac and blow him as dry as possible but that's not 100% effective. A serious doggie dryer is one option I would consider.
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