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06-08-2014 07:29 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by AddieGirl View Post
They co-existed seemingly in peace. Looking back I would say that there were a couple red flags with K-bar. He would fixate on the cat door to the basement occasionally but we (naively) thought he saw it as a "Jack-in-the-box" type of reward when the cat would pop through. We didn't see it as threatening.
Most likely that!

Sometimes we learn crap the hard way! My journey with my GSD has been filled with some red flags I had "never seen that before" things. Things I did did not view as an issue??

One I caught "people aggression" the other I did not "Rank' drive thing! Me and Gunther dealt with that the hard way!

Sadly sometimes that how we learn things!
06-08-2014 06:35 PM
AddieGirl It was pretty upsetting. And the bad thing is that we were not home when it happened, so I have no way of knowing the scenario and how long the kitten suffered. If I had to guess I would say that the kitten ran and prey drive kicked in. Our adult cat never ran from the dogs because he was not scared of them. The kitten was found in a back bathroom where he would've had no escape if that's where he retreated to. My dogs were not necessarily "friends" with the cats but they had never shown any intent to harm. They co-existed seemingly in peace. Looking back I would say that there were a couple red flags with K-bar. He would fixate on the cat door to the basement occasionally but we (naively) thought he saw it as a "Jack-in-the-box" type of reward when the cat would pop through. We didn't see it as threatening.
06-08-2014 01:27 PM
Chip18
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Just try to do everything you can to train your dog with the cat. Addie and K-bar used to stay in my bedroom while I was at work. The way we found out that they learned to open the door was when my husband came home to our stray 4 month old kitten taking his last breaths. He was soaked in saliva and died within 10 minutes of my husband finding him. I made it home just before he died and it was the saddest thing I've seen in a long time. I had gotten the kitten neutered at my work and was pretty attached to him.

Addie grew up with our adult cat in the house and K-bar had lived with him for a year. I don't know what set them off, but they had to have shaken the poor kitten to death. There were bits of fur all around but no bleeding. Ugh. Our adult cat is no longer with us and we can never have a cat again.
I am so sorry! That is something I want never to happen!

My BullMastiff/APBT/Lab mix and my Boxer actually watched kittens being born! Not an issue with kittens... there was an issue between the dogs! Struddell did not much care for Gunthers excitement over the new arrivals! Different story!

I have been searching for alternative methods, Only thing I have found is Lou Castles:

Game Chasing (Crittering)

Pretty sure no one is doing anything like that in the real world..normal "pet people."

If folks hide the cat, that can happen! You do have to have stuff ready to do intros but yes accidents can happen!

5 dogs, 16 cats and 14 years "never" a single cat/dog incident. I even have stray cats coming into the yard! Dogs saw them, first time I ever knew they were there was when, I looked outside and saw a giant Blk fur ball eating on the table with my regular guys?? There have been others showing up off and on.

I'm sorry but I make it "crystal clear" to my dogs that cats are off limits!! I will drop the hammer of Thor on a dog if he "dares" to step a single paw towards one of my cats!

I have never had to do that but...they "seem" to know that "we don't want to cross daddy in this regard!" Not sure how that explains my (new to me GSD) and his attacks on Gunther?? But he (GSD) never stepped a single paw towards the cats!
06-08-2014 12:49 PM
AddieGirl Just try to do everything you can to train your dog with the cat. Addie and K-bar used to stay in my bedroom while I was at work. The way we found out that they learned to open the door was when my husband came home to our stray 4 month old kitten taking his last breaths. He was soaked in saliva and died within 10 minutes of my husband finding him. I made it home just before he died and it was the saddest thing I've seen in a long time. I had gotten the kitten neutered at my work and was pretty attached to him.

Addie grew up with our adult cat in the house and K-bar had lived with him for a year. I don't know what set them off, but they had to have shaken the poor kitten to death. There were bits of fur all around but no bleeding. Ugh. Our adult cat is no longer with us and we can never have a cat again.
06-08-2014 12:13 PM
Chip18 It's about the dog not the cat. If it's happened for awhile everything is going to be harder! But the first step still has to be change the dog's behavior.

It you have a cat aggressive dog that's another issue! But when you have the dog under control then you can deal with the cat!

http://www.cesarsway.com/askcesar/ag...Along-with-Cat
06-08-2014 11:53 AM
Chip18
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I have lost a cat from him just going out and never coming back. It's heartbreaking so we've said after this guy goes I don't think we will have another. I like to see the dogs and cats together but I just haven't got the nerves for a cat!

Our current cat is a lost cause. He moved in with a neighbour for 3 months once. He loves people and dogs and we were working all day so he just left! I eventually had to practically steal my own cat back!😡 He now spends his time meeting and greeting tourists of coaches in the car park next to our house! We've accepted he'll meet his demise by either transport or dog, but he's happy and all efforts to stop him have failed.😞


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Yep three of mine living room amin house cats are never allowed outside!
Four bedroom/sun room cats are free to come and go in the yard or indoor as they please, they never leave the yard.

But the one Spike, I can't keep him in and I can't trust him not to leave the yard! He usually comes in at sundown sometimes earlier. If he comes in before sundown he knows he is not going back outside! He's pretty much fine with that but he's like I'm out of here in the morning!! I 'think" he is in the yard?? I give him heck if I "see' him in the front but he's a cat so who knows??
06-08-2014 11:47 AM
jafo220 I can't offer any advice, but only to say you're not alone. The problem with my situation is my cat will actively go after the dog if he feels the dog is after him. He is somewhat an instigator in this. The dog goes into kind of a short shock moment then goes after the cat. Back when we let the cat stay out with the dog, the dog was a pup and we used a baby gate to keep the dog confined to the area we were in. Again as usual, the cat would creep up to the gate and basically tease the dog. So even if we break the dog from associating with the cat, there is no guarantee the cat won't still go for the dog. He did this with our previous GSD, but that dog was of a different temperament and had a great threshold when it came to things like that.

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06-08-2014 11:35 AM
SARpup I have 4 cats. 2 are dog savvy and know how to tell the puppy to buzz off and he does, the other 2 run from him!! Drives me nuts! He is getting better at not chasing them and we are trying to teach these 2 cats to stand their ground and not run and that is helping a little but sheeesh! the other 2 cats have raised puppies before and know what to do, now just need to train the other 2! I do think it has a lot to do with your cats. Like I said 2 of the cats rule the dog and he knows it! And yes the cats are wicked about it! They block his way or sit right in the middle of the room where he wants to play! They will ignore him until he gets right where they want him and then spring on him! Poor guy! Lured in with a false sense of safety and then BAM! Those 2 will chase him if he starts to get to playful and he backs off! Hope to get the other 2 to gain a bit more confidence!
06-06-2014 07:12 AM
llombardo My cats start with the dogs everytime. They have no fear. My female played with them until she was about a year, then on her own decided they were much nicer to sleep and cuddle with. I am still a year later working with the male. One of my cats just doesn't like him and it drives Midnite nuts, especially when the cat hisses at him. I have a couple foster cats that don't have a clue, for their safety I have a gate up and he can only smell them through that and they still kinda tease him that way. I sometimes feel sorry for the dog
06-06-2014 05:03 AM
njk I'm still having issues with our pup chasing our cat. My partner has put in a no tolerance rule when it comes to the cat and our pup gets a smack. I tried the treats - giving her one when she listened but then she seemed to chase him more and came up expecting treats. I think I inadvertently taught her she gets a treat when she harasses the cat

We have a baby gate that the cat can get through, though he never uses it when she harasses him. Only goes over when he wants to. And when I put him on the other side he just jumps back over. He's not scared of our pup but I hate seeing her all over him, cos she's so big now.

Oh, and he's an indoor cat. So they're both indoors together when we're not home. Usually the cat gets closed in our room now.
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